Tuesday, December 9, 2014

William Morgan 1824-1861 and Mary Payne 1825-1901

William Morgan
Parents William Morgan and Elizabeth Powell
Christening:  1 August 1824 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Occupation (s):  Shoemaker (1846 - on marriage information)
Agricultural Laborer (1851 - 1861 - on census)
Wheelwright (listed as such in his son's 1862 marriage information)
Married Mary Payne 16 July 1846  Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Burial 16 September 1861 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Sources
1851 UK Census Tetchill, Shropshire, England (age 26)
1861 UK Census Tetchill, Shropshire, England (age 36)
Christening: England Births and Baptisms
Marriage:  Family History Library film number: 1657548 item 29 p 179
Note:  in record her surname is spelled Paine
Burial:  Parish Burial Records
Ancestry.com
Mary Payne
Parents Richard Payne and Caroline Cheshire
Christening 16 January 1825 West Felton, Shropshire, England
Occupation:  Laundress (1881-1891)
Death 1901 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Sources
England Births and Christenings
1851 UK Census Tetchill, Shropshire, England (age 25)
1861 UK Census Tetchill, Shropshire, England (age 35,  claims birth place is Rednall)
1871 UK Census Tetchill, Shropshire, England (age 45 - claims birth place was Rednal)
1881 UK Census Ellesmere, Shropshire, England (age 55, widow, sister Catherine with her)
1891 UK Census  Ellesmere, Shropshire, England (age 64, widow, sister Catherine with her)
Death:  England BMD Registration
Ancestry.com

CHILDREN (note:  Ellesmere is a small market town near Oswestry in north ShropshireEngland, notable for its proximity to a number of prominent lakes, the Meres. As I looked for Tetchill, I found the two names are used together as they are in very close proximity (Tetchill is actually on Ellesmere road).  So, this becomes important - Ellesmere, Tetchill, and Oswestry are within a short distance of each other and when I looked for children, marriages, etc., I looked at all three places.

William Morgan
Christening 4 March 1847 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Married Martha Tomlinson 31 December 1862 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Children: ?
Death
Sources
1851 UK Census Tetchill, Shropshire, England (age 4)
England Births and Christenings
England Select Marriages item 30 page 203 (FHL Film # 1657548)
Henry Morgan
Christening 7 October 1849 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Occupation:   Cooper (1881)
Married ?
Death
Sources
England Births and Christenings
1851 UK Census Tetchill, Shropshire, England (age 1)
1861 UK Census Tetchill, Shropshire, England (age 11)
1871 UK Census Liverpool, Lancashire, England (age 22, boarder)
1881 UK Census Liverpool, Lancashire, England (age 32, boarder)
1891 UK Census  Ellesmere, Shropshire, England (age 59 - not so sure this is him)
Edwin Morgan
Birth 1855 Tetchill, Shropshire, England
Married ?
Death
Sources
1861 UK Census Tetchill, Shropshire, England (age 6)
1871 UK Census Crickett, Shropshire, England (age 16, servant in Wynn household)
1881 UK Census Ellesmere, Shropshire, England (age 26)
John Morgan
Christening 15 April 1858 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Occupation:  Carter's Boy (1871)
Married ?
Death
Sources
England Births and Christenings
1861 UK Census Tetchill, Shropshire, England (age 3)
1871 UK Census Birch & Lythe, Shropshire, England (age 14, servant)
1881 UK Census Liverpool, Lancashire, England (age 23)
Richard Morgan
Christening 16 May 1861 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Occupation: General Laborer (1911)
Married Elizabeth Lee 31 December 1895 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Children:  Mary, child, child, Henry (4 reported to be alive on 1911 census)
Death
Sources
England Births and Christenings
1881 UK Census Ellesmere, Shropshire, England (age 20)
1901 UK Census Ellesmere, Shropshire, England (age 39)
1911 UK Census Ellesmere, Salop, England (age 50)

William Kinsella and Mary Munn

Our Lady of Good Help where William was christened
William Kinsella
Parents:  Nicholas Kinsella and Catherine Silk
Born 25 September 1876 in Wavertree, Lancashire, England
Christened  6 October 1876 Our Lady of Good Help, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Note: the church was founded in 1871 and closed on Sunday 3rd April 2011
Occupation:  Dock Carter (1911)
Married Mary Munn 5 February 1899 All Souls, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Died December 1942 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Buried
Sources
1881 UK Census Wavertree, Lancashire, England (age 5)
1891 UK Census Wavertree, Lancashire, England (age 15)
1901 UK Census Everton, Lancashire, England (age 25)
1911 UK Census Liverpool, Lancashire, England (age 35)

St Joseph's in Liverpool where Mary was christened
Note:  St Joseph's was founded in 1845. In January 1870 there was terrible disaster when 15 people were trampled to death because of a false fire alarm. In March 1876 the roof of the original building collapsed, and the church was subsequently rebuilt.  So Mary would have been baptized in this newer building.  It was demolished in 1979.
Mary Munn
Parents:  James Henry Munn and Bridget Chalk
Born November 1876
Christened 10 December 1877 St. Joseph's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Died
Buried
Sources
1901 UK Census Everton, Lancashire, England (age 25)
1911 UK Census Liverpool, Lancashire, England (age 33)
Picture and story about St Joseph's:  http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/stjosephs.html

CHILDREN Note:  1911 Census claims 7 children born to Mary and William but at the time of the census, only four are still alive (Mary, Stephen, Francis, Bridget).  We know from records that John & Margaret died young.  I only have 6 children born before 1911, not seven.  

We are missing a child.  I did investigate a William born in 1899, but the christening documentation claimed his mother was Helen Munn, not Mary.   

Maybe Mary had a baby in November or December 1899 that did not live.  There are enough gaps we could fit a few more babies in here.  Anyone know the truth?  Please share.

Mary Ellen Kinsella
Born 25 October 1901 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Christening: 5 November 1901 St Joseph's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Note:  Baptized under name Maria Helena Kinsella (they used latin terminology) with father listed as Gulielmi (William) and mother listed as Maria
Married Edward Kennedy on March 1918 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Children:  John (the rest are still living)
Died September 1943
Sources
1911 UK Census Liverpool, Lancashire, England (age 10)
Ancestry.com
Birth and Christening:  Liverpool England Catholic Baptisms
Marriage:  England and Wales Marriage Index
John Edward Kinsella
Born 26 June 1903 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Not Married
No Children
Died 1904 West Derby, Lancashire, England
Burial:  24 September 1904 Ford Cemetery, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Sources
Ancestry.com
Our Lady of Reconciliation de la Salette where Margaret was christened
Margaret Kinsella
Born  8 January 1905 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Christened: 23 January 1905  Our Lady of Reconciliation de La Salette, Lancashire, England
Not Married
No Children
Died 1906 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Buried
Sources
Picture:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Our_Lady_of_Reconciliation,_Liverpool
Liverpool England Catholic Baptisms
England and Wales Death Registration
St Anthony's church where Stephen was christened
Stephen Kinsella
Born 18 Oct 1906 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Christening: 27 October 1906 St Anthony, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Married? Did not find a very reasonable marriage date
Children ?  did not find any
Died December 1981 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Buried
Sources
Birth and Christening:  Liverpool, England Catholic Baptisms
1911 UK Census Liverpool, Lancashire, England (age 4)
Ancestry.com
Birth and Death:  England and Wales Death registration
Francis Kinsella
Born about 1909 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
The only source I had that he existed was the 1911 Census
Sources
Ancestry.com
1911 UK Census Liverpool, Lancashire, England (age 2)
Bridget Kinsella
Born September 1910 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Not Married
No Children
Death 1911 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Buried 26 September 1911 Ford Cemetery, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Sources
1911 UK Census Liverpool, Lancashire, England (age 8 months)
Birth:  England and Wales Birth Registration
Death:  England and Wales Death Registration
William Kinsella
Born 1912 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Not Married
No Children
Died 1913 West Derby, Lancashire, England
Buried
Sources
England and Wales Death Registration Index

Not sure the following child belongs to them, as Mary would be 42 at the time. His mother's maiden name was listed as Munn and William T had passed away five years ago. So this is a possibility.

William T Kinsella
Born 1918 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Sources
England and Wales Birth Registration