Wednesday, July 1, 2009

John Taylor 1812-1896 Eleanor Burkett 1815-1905

John Taylor
John Taylor
Parents: William Taylor and Elizabeth Patrick
Born 7 Dec 1812 Bowling Green, Warren, Kentucky

He was a farmer

Married Eleanor Burkett 3 Apr 1834 Liberty, Clay, Missouri
Died 7 Feb 1896 Plain City, Weber, Utah
Buried: 10 Feb 1896 Ogden City Cemetery, Ogden, Ogden, Utah
Location of grave: E-5-40-2W1
Note:  John was born in Kentucky, but joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (baptized) on 30 Jun 1834 in Missouri.  He later left the church and joined the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (RLDS) and was a member of the RLDS church at the time of his death


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3rd Great Grandfather
Obituary (on Family Search thanks to Jean Stratford Wilson it listed the original was in possession of Mrs. C.W. Chase by Mrs. JJ Furniss from Ida Jarman): 

John Taylor or as he was familiarly known "Uncle John Taylor" passed peacefully away from earthly scenes after a few weeks illness at his home near Plain City, Utah, 7 February 1896. 

His was an eventful life. Resolute and brave, even in the face of appalling danger, and yet devoted to the truth and virtue, he maintained his integrity and honor to the end and went down like a shock of grain fully ripe. 

He was born 7 December 1812 at Bowling Green, Kentucky. He united with the church in Missouri in 1832, so with the exception of the first two years, he has been identified with the church through its entire history (he was a member of RLDS church at time of death).  

On April 8th 1834 he was married in Liberty, Missouri, to Miss Eleanor Burkett, who still survives him. Through nearly sixty years, this couple has walked hand-in-hand through life's uneven journey, and always proved true to the cherished vows of his youth.  Come what would, he was her Isaac, and she his Rebecca. Of this union, there were born 7 sons and 5 daughters, all of whom still live to honor his memory; also many grandchildren and great-grandchildren, so his posterity is said to number about three hundred.

They passed through the persecutions, privations, and trials of the church in Missouri, and were among the exiles of Illinois. He spent two seasons with Lyman Wight and George Miller in obtaining timber in Wisconsin (unknown word here) for the Nauvoo Temple and the Nauvoo House.  

In 1845, he accompanied the Lyman Wight Company to Texas and remained with them until the fall of 1850 and after wandering found his way to Utah in 1854 (that summer according to Hosea Stout) where he was reunited with the main body of the church. He has ever since been unwavering and devoted to his testimony. He was ordained an Elder.

On February 10, 1896 at Harrisville meeting house, the funeral services were held. A discourse was held by Herman C.E. Smith. The meeting house was filled to overflowing with relatives and friends and a long procession followed him to his last resting place in the Ogden City Cemetery. A good and true man has gone to rest.  
 
John Taylor - colorized - note:  the eyes
are probably supposed to be blue.

Funeral Notice/Obituary


A further note in the same paper (handwritten and very hard to read) there was something about nearly freezing to death and other hardships, plus John appeared to Eleanor after his death and told her his clothes didn't fit
(someone supposed they were made cheaply or something, but likely it had to do with the fact he died RLDS and needed his ordinances redone which were completed in 1914 in the Salt Lake Temple);  the paper also mentioned he was always a staunch friend of Joseph Smith, but didn't believe in polygamy. He is also quoted in the Community of Christ archives (which was the RLDS church) which leads me to believe that his defection from the main body of the LDS Church was true.
Sources
Glenn Rawson Stories: Those who knew Brother Joseph Part Two, mentions John Taylor when he was jailed. Joseph Taylor, Brother of John, is also mentioned (22 minutes in) and Pleasant Green Taylor was mentioned beginning 27 minutes in. 
U.S. Mormon Pioneer Overland Travel Records
Marriage: U.S. Missouri Compiled Marriages
Note: Eleanor's name in the marriage record was given as Nancy
Membership of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Book: Utah Pioneers and Prominent Men - mentioned in son, Alma's entry
Early Members of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (RLDS)
1840 US Census Hancock County, Illinois
1850 US Census Milam, Texas (age 38)
1860 US Census Weber County, Utah (age52)
1870 US Census Madison County, Montana (age 56)
Note:  household of Leopold Van Gorp.  He had his wife, William, James, and Amanda with him
1880 US Census for Plain City, Weber, Utah (age 68)
Note:  lists his father's birthplace as SC and it should be NC

John and Eleanor's Headstone
Picture: Family Search
Note:  The Joseph Taylor Sr. Family Association has information copied by Susan Holley Jackman from the records of her grandfather, Horace Holley, son of Amanda Jane Knight, daughter of Sarah Elizabeth (listed below).  She states there are a lot of "gross errors" in the history and did her best to straighten out several misleading stories.
Funeral Notice/Obituary: Utah Digital Newspapers, Salt Lake Herald-Republican, 10 February 1896, Monday issue, page 7
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/25146555/john-taylor
Family Search
ancestry.com
Eleanor Burkett
Eleanor Burkett (a.k.a. Nelly)
Parents: George Burkett Jr. and Sarah Jane Smith
Born 2 Jul 1815 Fort Hamilton, Ross Township, Butte, Ohio
Occupation:  Practical Nurse
Died 11 Jun 1905 Plain City, Davis, Utah (old age, Paralysis)
Note: surname has only one t on death cert.
Buried 14 Jun 1905 Ogden, Weber, Utah Location of grave: E-5-40-2W1

Eleanor's obituary
Ogden Standard-Examiner, issue 12 June 1905 

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3rd Great Grandmother

Sources
1850 US Census Milam, Texas (age 35)
1860 US Census Weber County, Utah (age 45)
Note:  name spelled Elleaner
1870 US Census Madison County, Montana (age 55)
1880 US Census for Plain City, Weber, Utah (age 64)
Note:  name spelled Ellenor
1900 US Census for Plain City, Weber, Utah page 5B (age 85, Widowed, living alone)
Note: name spelled Elinor, she claimed she had 12 children and 12 were still living - when she had 14 and 12 were living.  I think she was a bit confused by the question. 
Obituary: http://home.comcast.net/~susanjackman/burketweb/ancestornarrative/b12.htm
Utah Death Certificate (informant was William, child #11)
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/25146428/eleanor-taylor
Family Search
ancestry.com
CHILDREN

Eleanor Taylor (twin to Alma)
Born and died 6 Mar 1835 Liberty, Clay, Missouri (possibly stillborn)
Sources
Family Search
ancestry.com
Alma K Taylor
Alma K Taylor (twin to Eleanor)
Born 6 Mar 1834 Liberty, Clay, Missouri
Occupation:  Farmer
Interesting note:  There is an Alma Taylor Plateau in Vernal, Utah and he lived in Vernal so it must have been his land at one time and is now claimed by the US Government as wilderness see the following link for more information:  www.fs.fed.us/restoration/.../Ashley_Alma_Taylor_FY10_20100506.pdf NOTE:  THIS LINK NO LONGER WORKS AS OF 2020
Married 1) Celia Anzinett Keyes 3 Dec 1856 Fort Supply, Missouri
Children with Celia listed on 1880 Census:  Rosa, Clara, William, Hyrum, Annie, Mina, Lucy, Lola
2) Martha Keyes (his sister-in-law) 1864 (4 children)
3) Cornelia Isabella Congdon 27 Feb 1964 (claimed to have had 5 children)  She divorced him and remarried.
Note: The online source claims he had 10 children with Celia, but I've only found 8 in the Census information.
Many of his children from all his wives are claimed by several sources to have been born in Missouri in the 1860's - but he was already in Utah.
In the 1870 Utah Census, all three of his wives are listed and by the 1880 census the only one remaining is Celia. The manifesto against polygamy wasn't given until 1890.  Sadly, the 1890 Census was destroyed by fire.  In spite of what people may believe, the manifesto dissolved polygamous marriages.  Alma was excommunicated from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.   

Alma's death certificate



Died 9 Aug 1910 Vernal, Uintah, Utah (Injury caused pulmonary hemorrhage). According to the online source below, he was involved in a runaway (horse running away with him?)
Buried 12 Aug 1910 Vernal, Uintah, Utah

Alma's headstone


Life History of Alma K Taylor


Alma Taylor was born March 6, 1835, in Clay County, Missouri, two years after his father
Alma's obit
accepted the gospel. He was the oldest son of John Taylor and Eleanor Burkett.

He came into the world at a time when the Latter Day Saints or Mormons as they were called, were being driven from post to post. They had to leave their comfortable homes and move to parts unknown.

The Governor issued an order that the Mormons must leave Missouri, so they moved into a sparsely settled area called Ray County. They were living there in 1827. The mob wasn’t satisfied and kept up their plundering and mobbings until they drove them into Caldwell County in 1827.

They finally gathered with the saints in Nauvoo in 1840, and stayed there for three or four years. Alma was then five years old and big enough to remember the Prophet Joseph Smith. His mother was a member of the Relief Society at the time.

It was at this time that Alma’s father was called to go with his family into the mountains and cut logs for the Nauvoo Temple. They went for 17 months and endured lots of hardships because of the Indians and the cold. Alma learned some of the Indian language and had lots of experiences with them.

They were living in Nauvoo when the Prophet was having so much trouble with the mobs and when he was being tried in court. Many were being put in prison for the gospel’s sake.

Alma was a big husky boy for his age, and he was eight years old when the Prophet was killed. He told his children that he heard the prophet say when he was going to prison for the last time that “He was going like a lamb to the slaughter” and he was void of offense toward anybody.

It was about this time that Alma, his father, mother, and family went to Texas.


It was also about this time that Alma swam the Missouri River to save some cattle that were going to drown.

While in Texas they had lots of Indian scares. They were living in Fortanalis, Texas in 1848, and in 1849 they were living in Sampasis, Texas. NOTE: NOT SURE OF THE SPELLING OF EITHER PLACE

At one time the Indians drove their cattle off, but Alma could talk their language and was able to get their cattle back. He also showed that he wasn't afraid.

In 1853 they sold out and moved to Oklahoma to get ready to move to Utah.

They were now ready to leave to cross the plains. Alma was now 19 years old and the oldest of his brothers, so a great deal of the responsibility fell on him. They left on June 12, 1854. There were two wagons to drive, 12 milk cows, and some young stock to watch. They owned their own company, and of course, someone had to be on guard every night so the Indians would not run off their cattle. It was a long tedious journey to take, but they had good luck and arrived in Salt Lake August 15, 1854. At this time he had two brothers, one 17 and one 15.

The Indians were so bad they had to move into a fort called Bingham Fort, now called Five Points. They lived in the fort for two years and then moved to Slaterville, Weber, Utah.

Alma and wife Celia Keyes

They were living there when Alma became acquainted with Celia Keyes, a young girl who also emigrated across the plains. She was about 15 or 16 years old. She was born in 1841.

They were married in 1856 and moved out to Eden where they lived on a homestead of 160 acres of land, and after a few years, Alma made him a Saw Mill on Wolf Creek about eight miles from Eden. It ran by water power. He made lumber and lath. They hauled the logs in on a cart and ox team, and then hauled the lumber into Ogden with a team of horses which was a distance of about 29 miles.

Alma Taylor was a very courageous man. He weighed 180 pounds and was 5 feet 11 inches tall. He could run and jump 22 feet and could stand and jump 11 feet backward.

They lived in Eden until about 1859 when they moved to Vernal, Utah, where he lived until he died. First, they lived in a log house and in 1895 they built a nice two-story house from brick.

There was a creek bottom a little ways from the house where he was hauling hay one day. He went to go across the ditch and fell off the hay and broke some of his ribs. He was sick for a long time and he suffered so much pain that drops of blood stood out on his head, so they told us.

Alma died in the year 1910. He called for his son Hyrum, but he died before Hyrum could get to him.
Sources
1850 US Census Milam, Texas (age 15)
1860 US Census Cache County, Utah (age 24)
1870 US Census Ogden, Weber, Utah (age 36)
Note: listed as A. Taylor, all three of his wives are listed and seven of his children
1880 US Census Ashley, Uintah, Utah (age 46)
Note:  living with Celia and eight children
1900 US Census Vernal, Uintah, Utah
1910 US Census Vernal, Uintah, Utah
Utah Death Certificate (informant was Minnie Croxford)
http://www.shaweb.net/GenWeb/WebHist/Pedigree/233.htm
Book:  Builders of Uintah, page 12, published 1947 by Daughters of Utah Pioneers (D.U.P.)
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/43923409/alma-k-taylor
Family Search
ancestry.com

Teancum Taylor

Teancum Taylor (a.k.a. "T")
Born 21 Dec 1836 Liberty, Clay, Missouri
Information: He came to Ashley Valley on Sept. 16, 1877, his family being the fourth white family to settle there. He was the first man to bring a load of pine logs into the valley, from what is now known as Taylor Mountain or Ashley Driveway. 

Located in Vernal, Utah


The mountain was named for him. He was the first known person to enter Mt. Dell (Dry Fork) and lived there for a number of years.
Teancum and his wives

Married 1) Mary Jane Hiatt 20 May 1859 Millcreek, Salt Lake, Utah
Children: Rebecca, Teancum, James, Elihu, John, Emeline, Amanda, William, Albert, Reuben, Charles, Luella, Lillie, Emeline
2) Clarissa Jane Taylor (his second cousin and a polygamist wife) 15 Aug 1860 Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah
Teancum's headstone
Children: Mary, Sarah, Clarissa, Minerva, Allen, Georgetta, Lyda, Cora, Jesse, Joseph, Milly, Annie, Annie, Effie, Lester
Died 17 Nov 1907 Dragon, Uintah, Utah 
COD: cardiac paralysis
Buried:  20 Nov 1907 Vernal Cemetery, Vernal, Uintah, Utah
Note on Death Cert. his mother's name is spelled Elinor and her birthplace is incorrectly given as Indiana.
Sources
1850 US Census Milam, Texas (age 13)
1860 US Census Weber, Utah ( age 23) page 121
1900 US Census Ashley Mt., Uintah, Utah page 11A
Online: www.ourlifehistory.org/.../ History%20of%20Rudolph%20Teancum%20Taylor.pdf
Note:  THIS LINK IS BROKEN, but I left it here because I did use it as a source
Picture of him and his wives: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~utuintah/pioneers/taylor.html
Utah Death Certificate (informant was a wife)
1883,1888, 1896: Teancum had to go to court:  Territorial Case Files of the U.S. District Courts of Utah, 1870-1896
Vernal Express news article in "Echoes from the Dust" section of the 17 March 1977 issue:  History of Ash Valley  
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/26592414/teancum-taylor
Family Search
ancestry.com
Eleanor Taylor
Born 22 Dec 1837
Died:  prior to 1850 census? she's not listed with the family
Sources
Family Search
ancestry.com
Joseph Moroni Taylor
Joseph Moroni Taylor
Born 14 Feb 1839 Caldwell, Missouri
Occupation: Sawyer (1870)

He was also a Farmer


Married: Louise Adelaide Stallings 24 Dec 1858 Eden, Weber, Utah
Children:  Margaret, Mary Ann,  Louisa, John, Joseph, George, Reuben, Guy, Lillian,  Alfred, Ida

Unknown Company

Died: 20 Feb 1922 Burley, Cassia, Idaho
COD: Senile Debility
Buried: Pleasant View Cemetery, Burley, Cassia, Idaho
Joseph's headstone
Sources
1850 US Census Milam, Texas (11 years old)
1860 US Census Salt Lake City, Utah page 228 (age 22)
1870 US Census Ogden, Weber, Utah (age 31)
1900 US Census for Eureka, Juab, Utah page 28B (age 65)
1910 US Census for Eureka, Juab, Utah page 36 (widowed)
1920 US Census for Cassia County, Idaho page 21 (age 83, living with daughter Lillian's family)
Death: Online:usgwarchives.org/id/statewide/vitals/deaths/1911-1951 Certificate #037226
Death Certificate: Pearl Hodge is the informant
Pictures: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/32117727/joseph-moroni-taylor
Family Search
ancestry.com
Sarah Elizabeth Taylor 
Sarah and John's headstone
Sarah Elizabeth Taylor
Born 15 Dec 1840 Nauvoo, Hancock, Illinois
Married 1) John Knight 11 Dec 1859 Slaterville, Weber, Utah (she supposedly met him when he was teaching school in Slaterville)
Children: Sarah, Mary, Amanda, John, James, William, Minerva, Louisa, George, Emma, Charles, Clarence
2) Albert Green
No Children
Died: 10 Dec 1919 Ogden, Weber, Utah
COD: apoplexy (heart attack)
Buried: 13 Dec 1919 Ogden City Cemetery, Ogden, Weber, Utah
Plot: D-16-4-2E
Sources
1850 US Census Milam, Texas (9 years old)
1870 US Census Slaterville, Weber, Utah (30 years old)
1880 US Census Slaterville, Weber, Utah (40 years old) page 481
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/32559619/sarah-elizabeth-knight
Death and Burial:  Death Certificate (informant Sarah E Stanger)
Family Search
ancestry.com
Mary Eleanor Taylor
Mary Eleanor Taylor
Born 12 Jun 1843 Nauvoo, Hancock, Illinois
Here is a story I found about her that I cut and pasted (my notes are in brighter red):
Mary Eleanor was responsible for the care of her twin baby brothers (Note:  there was one of each gender in both sets of twins/siblings.  The first set was older than Mary Eleanor and one of the older set of twins (Eleanor) died, so that leaves the second set of twins who were younger (William and Lucinda).  Mary would have been about nine years old when the twins were born) as they crossed the plains.  They camped with other small companies at night. While en route, an Indian was attempting to steal one of the twins confronted Eleanor. She grabbed up a butcher knife (yes, even a nine-year-old could do this), and frightened the Indian away. She walked all the way from Nauvoo to Salt Lake Valley, except when crossing streams.(The family was in Texas, then Oklahoma, and then to Utah - she couldn't have walked all the way from Nauvoo unless they backtracked from Oklahoma or Texas to Illinois and then came west - very unlikely)  She and her sister had many opportunities to marry into a polygamy family. They refused them all. After each proposal, they climbed upon the log house and cut a notch in a ridge pole. (This sounds more like a family legend than truth, does anyone know what really happened?) 
Married Samuel Moore Hiatt 19 Jan 1860 Plain City, Weber, Utah

Samuel Knight and Mary Taylor Knight

How Samuel met Mary:
After his mother's death, Samuel went to Texas with his brothers, Stephen, Charles & Reuben  There he was married to Emeline Pinkley who died after childbirth, as did the child. Sam joined a group who were headed to the California Gold Fields, while on their way they stopped in Salt Lake (City). While there Sam looked for his
Mary Eleanor Taylor Knight
Mary's obit
brother, Elihu. As he came into town on his horse "Billey" with a pistol on each hip, riding down the center of the street, he was hailed by a stranger who said, "Brother Hiatt, you are looking for your brother, Elihu. He lives in Farmington." Sam was given directions. He went to visit his brother. He didn't care for the men he was traveling with, so decided to stay with his brother, although he wasn't going to become a Mormon! In the Spring of 1859, he was baptized. From Farmington, he went to teach school at Slaterville. It was here that he met his future wife, Mary Eleanor Taylor. They lived in Utah for a while, then Idaho, then  Hermiston, Oregon. 
Children: Elijah, Eleanor, George, Emeline, Alfred, Burt, Louisa, Sarah, Charles, Frank, Sam, Mary Jane, John, Jeanette
Died 6 Jan 1941 Freewater, Umatilla, Oregon
Buried 9 Jan 1941 LaGrande, Union, Oregon
Samuel and Mary's headstone
Sources
1850 US Census Milam, Texas (7 years old)
1860 US Census Brigham City, Box Elder, Utah (17 years old)
1880 US Census Payson, Utah, Utah (37 years old)
Bio:  his g-granddaughter, from info by his granddaughter, Rhoda Huff. 
Pictures: http://www.ancestry.com/ and Family Search (the last picture is 1905 - at her mother's funeral)
Obituary
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/32559619/sarah-elizabeth-knight
Family Search
ancestry.com
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2nd Great grandfather
John Ammon Taylor
*John Ammon Taylor
Born 18 Feb 1845 Georgetown, Caldwell, Texas
Occupation:  Farmer
Married 1) Maren Johanne Poulsen (Mary Hannah) 24 Nov 1868 Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah
Children: John, William, George, Eliza, Charles, Hyrum, Ether, Parley, Lester, Elmer
2) Martha Jane Burns Ferrin 24 May 1917 Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah
Died 19 Feb 1921 Ogden, Weber, Utah (apoplexy)      
Buried 23 Feb 1821 Plain City Cemetery, Plain City, Weber, Utah
Sources
1850 US Census Milam, Texas (5 years old)
1860 US Census Weber County, Utah (14 years old) page 166
1880 US Census Harrisville, Weber, Utah (34 years) page 486
1900 US Census Plain City, Weber, Utah Sheet 8B
1910 US Census Plain City, Weber, Utah (age 64) page 8
1920 US Census Weber county, Utah (age 70 -should be 74)
Utah Death Certificate
Note:  claims birth year is 1846
Family Search
Ancestry.com
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/20130420/john-ammon-taylor
Hiram's headstone
Hiram Albert Taylor
Born 3 Jul 1848 Pedernalis, Texas
Married Louisa Jane Hinch 26 Dec 1869 Ruby Valley, Madison, Montana
Children:  Sarah, Nancy, George, Alice, William, Charles, David, Rose, Annie, Jesse, Leroi
Died: 30 Oct 1939 Turin, Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada
Alternative death place:  Ponoka, Alberta, Canada
Note left on Family Search:  Hirum is my great grand father. He had a long white beard and was a gruff man with a heart of gold. He and his wife lived down the road from us in Fort Macleod, Alberta, Canada when I was young and he was old. He had 11 children one of which was my grandmother. I have pictures of him and his cemetery stone. He owned land in the Turin area of Alberta at one time. He brought his family to Alberta by covered wagon taking 4 months to come from Ruby Valley Montana, USA to Cardston, Alberta, in 1900 or 1901.
Buried: Forest Home Cemetery, Ponoka, Alberta, Canada
Sources
1850 US Census Milam, Texas (3 years old)
1860 US Census Weber County, Utah (13 years old) page 166
1880 US Census Ruby Valley, Madison, Montana (32 years old) page 369
1900 US Census St Anthony, Fremont, Idaho
Note:  This census lists Louisa as Elizabeth J
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/142569578/hiram-taylor
Eliza Jane Taylor
Eliza Jane Taylor
Born 16 Dec 1849 Pond Spring, Williamson, Texas
Married 1) Isaac Thomas Luckey 25 December 1866 Virginia City, Madison, Montana
Children with Isaac (born in Denverton, California): Nellie, Eleanor, William, Annie, John, James, Lillie, Rose, (born in Utah) George, Sylvia, Edna, Forest
2) William Morris 16 Jun 1917 Freedom, Wyoming
Died 18 May 1948 Idaho Falls, Bonneville, Idaho
Buried 21 May 1948 Rose Hill Cemetery, Idaho Falls, Bonneville, Idaho
Short life history:
Eliza's family moved to Ogden, Utah in 1852 when she was about three years old, then in about 1862, at the age of thirteen, the family moved to Madison County, Montana where she met and married Isaac Luckey in about 1865. In 1865 or 66, Isaac and Eliza moved to California to the Sacramento Valley, where they took up a homestead in Denverton, Solano County, California. Land records for Denverton Township show Isaac Lucky as a farmer with a 160 acre section in the southeast corner of the township. These same records show his name spelled Lucky, without the "e".

The family farmed here for some 16 years, during which time they had eight children, Nellie Eleanor, born 29 Feb 1868, Minerva Jane, born 29 Jan 1870, William, born 26 May 1871, Annie, born 26 Mar 1873, John "Johnny", born 26 Apr 1875, James Thomas, born 7 Nov 1877, Lillie, born 18 Jun 1879 and Rose, born 29 Jul 1881. (Note The Luckey children may have been born in Rio Vista which is about ten miles east by south east of Denverton, which was quite a small town with a population in 1878 of about 54 families in the total Denverton Township.)

The 1870 Census for California, Solano County, Denverton Twp. shows Isaac (42) and Eliza (21) with two children, Nellie (2 yrs) and Minerva ( 5 mos). The 1880 Census for California, Solano County, Denverton shows Isaac T. (50) and Liza Jane (29) with seven children, Nelly (12 yrs), Manerva J. (10 yrs), William (9 yrs), Hannah (7 yrs), Johny (5 yrs), James T. (2 yrs) and Lilly (11 mos).
In 1882, the family began a long trek to Vernal, Uintah County, Utah. They drove a herd of cattle the 800 miles with several of the children helping out. Here in Vernal, they had four more children, George, born 18 Apr 1884, (Note the 1910 census shows George born in California?) Sylvia Laurel, born 2 Jul 1886, Edna Marie, born 13 Jan 1889 and Forest David, born 12 Jul 1894.

The 1900 Census for Utah, Uintah County, Vernal, shows Isaac (79 yrs) and Liza (54 yrs) with four children, Rose (18 yrs), Sylvia (15 yrs), Edna (11 yrs) and Forest (6 yrs).
They settled first in Steinaker Draw, later moving to a claim on Taylor Mountain and then back to Ashley Ward. Isaac Thomas  Luckey died on 4 Nov 1904 and he was buried in the Vernal Memorial Cemetery on 6 Dec 1904.

Several years after Isaac's death, in about 1909, Eliza Jane packed up her belongings and with two of her sons, George A. and Forest D, in a one-horse buggy, headed for Starr Valley, Wyoming, where another of her son's, Johnny, had died leaving a homestead. She not only proved up on his homestead but also took up another homestead of 320 acres of land in the wilderness of Swan Valley, Idaho.

Eliza's family moved to Ogden, Utah in 1852 when she was about three years old, then in about 1862, at the age of thirteen, the family moved to Madison County, Montana where she met and married Isaac Lucky in about 1865. In 1865 or 66, Isaac and Eliza moved to California to the Sacramento Valley, where they took up a homestead in Denverton, Solano County, California. Land records for Denverton Township show Isaac Lucky as a farmer with a 160 acre section in the southeast corner of the township. These same records show his name spelled Lucky, without the "e".

The family farmed here for some 16 years, during which time they had eight children, Nellie Eleanor, born 29 Feb 1868, Minerva Jane, born 29 Jan 1870, William, born 26 May 1871, Annie, born 26 Mar 1873, John "Johnny", born 26 Apr 1875, James Thomas, born 7 Nov 1877, Lillie, born 18 Jun 1879 and Rose, born 29 Jul 1881. (Note The Luckey children may have been born in Rio Vista which is about ten miles east by south east of Denverton, which was quite a small town with a population in 1878 of about 54 families in the total Denverton Township.)

The 1870 Census for California, Solano County, Denverton Twp. shows Isaac (42) and Eliza (21) with two children, Nellie (2 yrs) and Minerva ( 5 mos). The 1880 Census for California, Solano County, Denverton shows Isaac T. (50) and Liza Jane (29) with seven children, Nelly (12 yrs), Manerva J. (10 yrs), William (9 yrs), Hannah (7 yrs), Johny (5 yrs), James T. (2 yrs) and Lilly (11 mos).

In 1882, the family began a long trek to Vernal, Uintah County, Utah. They drove a herd of cattle the 800 miles with several of the children helping out. Here in Vernal, they had four more children, George, born 18 Apr 1884, (Note the 1910 census shows George born in California?) Sylvia Laurel, born 2 Jul 1886, Edna Marie, born 13 Jan 1889 and Forest David, born 12 Jul 1894.

The 1900 Census for Utah, Uintah County, Vernal, shows Isaac (79 yrs) and Liza (54 yrs) with four children, Rose (18 yrs), Sylvia (15 yrs), Edna (11 yrs) and Forest (6 yrs).

They settled first in Steinaker Draw, later moving to a claim on Taylor Mountain and then back to Ashley Ward. Isaac Thomas LUCKEY died on 4 Nov 1904 and he was buried in the Vernal Memorial Cemetery on 6 Dec 1904.

Several years after Isaac's death, in about 1909, Eliza Jane packed up her belongings and with two of her sons, George A. and Forest D, in a one-horse buggy, headed for Starr Valley, Wyoming, where another of her son's, Johnny, had died leaving a homestead. She not only proved up on his homestead but also took up another homestead of 320 acres of land in the wilderness of Swan Valley, Idaho.

On 16 Jun 1917, Eliza married William "Billy" MORRIS in Freedom, Wyoming. William was born in Sussex, England in 1861 and first immigrated to Canada in 1907, then across the U.S. to Wyoming. In 1920, Billie and Eliza sold out their holdings and moved to Idaho Falls, Idaho where they spent the remainder of their lives.
Eliza and William's headstone

The 1930 Census for Idaho, Bonneville, Idaho Falls shows William (67) and Eliza Morris (79).

Billy died 9 Apr 1946 and Eliza Jane died 18 May 1948 at the age of 98. They are both buried in the Rose Hill Cemetery in Idaho Falls, Idaho.On 16 Jun 1917, Eliza married William "Billy" MORRIS in Freedom, Wyoming. William was born in Sussex, England in 1861 and first immigrated to Canada in 1907, then across the U.S. to Wyoming. In 1920, Billie and Eliza sold out their holdings and moved to Idaho Falls, Idaho where they spent the remainder of their lives.
The 1930 Census for Idaho, Bonneville, Idaho Falls shows William (67) and Eliza Morris (79).

Billy died 9 Apr 1946 and Eliza Jane died 18 May 1948 at the age of 98. They are both buried in the Rose Hill Cemetery in Idaho Falls, Idaho.
Sources
1860 US Census Weber County, Utah (11 years old) page 166
1870 and 1880 US Census Denverton Township, Solano County, California
1900 US Census Vernal, Uintah, Utah
1930 US Census Idaho Falls, Bonneville, Idaho
Death: Online: usgwarchives.org/id/statewide/vitals/deaths/1911-1951
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8731841/eliza-jane-morris
Family Search
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William Taylor
William Taylor (twin to Lucinda)
Born 26 Apr 1852 Tahlequah, Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Optional birth place:  Texas
Occupation:  Farmer (1880 Census)
Married: Charity Catherine Hinch 28 Sep 1877 Ruby, Madison, Montana
Children:  William, Lillie, Albert, Ada, Frederick, Nellie, Leroy, Charles, Edith
Died 26 Apr 1927 Montana
Buried: Taylor Cemetery, Madison, Montana
William Taylor headstone
Sources
Picture (1905, at his mother's funeral):  Family Search
1870 US Census Madison County, Montana (age 18)
1880 US Census for Ruby Valley, Madison, Montana page 371D Film 1254742. There is a farmer named Albert Norton with them in this Census.  Note:  this census incorrectly claims William's father's birthplace is New York
1900 US Census Sheridan, Madison, Montana Image 165 Sheet 8B Note:  this census incorrectly lists his mother's birthplace as Pennsylvania
1910 US Census Ruby, Madison, Montana page 8 Note: this census incorrectly lists his mother's birthplace as Pennsylvania - again
1920 US Census Madison County, Montana sheet 6 image 1131 Film 1820972 (67 years old) 
Online: http://genforum.com/zeigler/messages/400.html
Online: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.ancestry.com/database/d0164/g0000000.htm#I45002
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/41478263/william-taylor
Family Search
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Lucinda and Samuel's headstone
Lucinda Minerva Taylor (twin to William)
Born 26 Apr 1852 Tahlequah, Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Married Samuel Boynton Paige 26 Dec 1869 Ruby, Madison, Montana
Children: Ida, Albert, Oscar , Wilbur , Warner, Charles , Cleveland, Alice , William
Died 6 Jan 1904 Alder, Madison, Montana
Buried Taylor Cemetery, Alder, Madison, Montana
Sources
1880 US Census Beaverhead Valley, Madison, Montana pg 365C Film 1254742 (married, 28 years old)  In this census, they had a servant named Eva Freeman living with them
1900 Census Sheridan town, Madison, Montana Film 1254742 pg 365C (married, mother of 11 - 9 were living) Note:  her name is spelled Lusinda in this Census
http://www.taylorassociation.org/TaylorDescendants/b1105.htm
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/115590602/lucinda-minerva-paige
Family Search
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James H Taylor drawer in Mausoleum
James Henry Taylor
Born 6 Mar 1855 Ogden, Weber, Utah
Occupation:  Farmer (1880)
Married Evelyn (Eva) Sharp abt 1888 Ogden, Weber, Utah
Children:  Ethel, Zella, Flora, Carl, Vera, Leonard, Harold
Died 17 Mar 1916 Portland, Multnomah, Oregon
Buried: Portland Memorial Mausoleum, Portland, Multnomah,Oregon,
Sources
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/67763823/james-henry-taylor
1870 US Census for Madison county, Montana (age 15)
1880 US Census for Plain City, Weber, Utah (age 22, living with parents)
1900 US Census for Eureka, Juab, Utah page 26B
Note: his name is Henry in the record
1910 US Census for Baker City, Oregon page 9
Family Search
ancestry.com
Amanda Rosina Taylor Chase
Amanda Rosina Taylor
Born 20 Feb 1858 Ogden, Weber, Utah
Married Charles Wells Chase 10 Nov 1878 Ogden, Weber, Utah
Amanda R Taylor Chase
Children:  Albert, Hazel
Died 26 Jan 1943 Ogden, Weber, Utah
Note: Middle name spelled Rosine on record. Lived at 1615 Washington Ave at time of death.
COD: Uremia (Kidney failure, specifically the poisoning of the body by the inability to flush toxins out of system)
Informant:  A.L. Chase - her son

Buried 29 Jan 1943 Ogden City Cemetery, Ogden, Weber, Utah Plot E-5-40-4W
Sources
Older Picture:  (1905 at her mother's funeral) Family Search
1870 US Census for Madison County, Montana (13 years old)
1880 US Census for Ogden, Weber, Utah (married, 22 years old)
1900 US Census for Ogden, Weber, Utah, (married, 2 children)
Note: incorrectly lists her mother's birthplace as Indiana
1920 US Census for Weber county, Utah (married, 61 years old).  image 746 Sheet 11.  Charlie

Amanda and Charles headstone
Barkwell, a 15 year old grandson, is with them.
Utah Death Certificate 
Headstone and younger picture: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/37850370/amanda-rosine-chase
Family Search
ancestry.com


Monday, June 15, 2009

John Grieg 1676

This needs a lot more research, the dates aren't really matching up.  If someone knows more, please help. 

John Grieg
Christened 11 Apr 1676 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Parents: Wiliam Grieg (no mother listed on record)
Married
Sources
Christening:  IGI Film 09903495 Batch C113122 dated 1615-1696
Marriage:  IGI Film 0102662 Batch M113122 dated 1658-1819

Elizabeth Naughtie?
Margaret Bennett?


CHILDREN

*Margaret Grieg 
Christened 26 Dec 1695 Arbroath, Angus, Scotland
Note:  surname spelled Greeg in the record.  Arbroath is only 13 miles from Montrose
Married James Grieve 24 May 1716 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Sources
Christening: Scotland Birth and Baptisms Batch C11272-2 Film 993332
Marriage: Scotland Marriages

Sunday, June 7, 2009

Hugh Howat 1799 Elizabeth Galt 1796

Hugh Howat
Born 14 Nov 1799
Christened 22 Nov 1799 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Parents: John Howat and Mary Shaw
Married Elizabeth Galt 25 May 1816 Craigie By Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Sources
Birth and Christening: IGI Film 1041377 Batch 115932 dated 1670-1677
Marriage: IGI Film 1041336 Batch M115842 dated 1776-1820
Ancestral File

Elizabeth Galt
Born 28 Dec 1796 Craigie, Ayr, Scotland
Parents: John Galt and Mary Knox
Sources
Ancestral File

CHILDREN

*William Howat
Born 14 May 1818 Murikirk, Ayr, Scotland
Christened 16 May 1818 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Married Janet Findlay 28 Jun 1874 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Children:  Lillias, James, Jean, Hugh, Euphemia, Agnes, William, Mary, Grace, Janet, Hugh
Occupation: Coal Miner
Died 1878 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Sources
British Isles Vital Record Index 2nd Edition on CD (version 2001)
Ancestral File
John HowatChristened 1 Feb 1820 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
SourcesAncestral File
Hugh Howat
Born 27 Nov 1821 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Sources
Ancestral File

William Howat 1818-1878 Janet Findlay 1812-1898

St. Quivox Church where William and Janet were married
Note:link active as of March 2019    https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/AYR/StQuivox/StQuivoxChurchofScotland
William Howat
Parents: Hugh Howat and Elizabeth Galt
Born 14 May 1818 Muirkirk, Ayr, Scotland
Christened 16 May 1818 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Note: surname spelled Howet in record
Occupation:  Coal Miner (1841-1871)
Married Janet Findlay 18 Nov 1836 St Quivox and Newton, Ayr, Scotland
Died 1878 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Buried:  likely in what is known as the old churchyard
Sources
Birth and Christening:  Scotland Births and Baptisms 1564-1950 Film 1041404 Batch C11611-2 also Christening found: British Vital Record Index Second Edition.
Marriage: IGI Film 1041406 Batch M116128 dated 1820-1854 also Scotland Marriages 1561-1910
1841 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland (25y)
Note:  address was Old Engine
1851 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland (37y)
Note: address was Howies Square 
1861 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Note:  same address as 1851
1871 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Note:  address 6 Ironwork Square
Family Search
ancestry.com
For the history about the Riccarton, Ayrshire area:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riccarton,_Ayrshire

Janet Findlay
Parents: James Findlay and Janet Meikle
Born 30 Mar 1812 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Occupation:  Cotton Weaver (1871)
Died 25 Mar 1898 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Note: she was a pauper and a widow
COD: Bronchitis
Informant: John Pator Grandson-in-law



Sources
1841 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Note:  address was Old Engine
1851 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Note: address was Howies Square 
1861 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Note:  same address as 1851
1871 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Note:  address 6 Ironwork Square
1881 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 63, widow)
Note:  same address as 1871
1891 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 74, widow, living with daughter Grace and kids)
Note:  address 31 Ironwork Square
Family Search
ancestry.com

CHILDREN


Lilias Clelland Howat
Born 1837 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Occupation:  Dairy Maid (1861) Dairy Manager (1871)
Married Robert Parker 15 May 1861 Craigie by Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland

Lilias and Robert's marriage record

Children:  Janet, John, Martha, Mary, Lilias, Robert, William
Note:  daughter Lilias began training in 1926 as a nurse at the Royal Alexander Infirmary in Paisley and completed it in 1928. She became a midwife 5 May 1931 and was listed in the Midwife/Nursing Registers of her time through 1968.

Died 29 March 1876 Craigie, Ayr, Scotland          
Buried 
Sources
1841 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Note:  address was Old Engine
1851 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Note: address was Howies Square 
1861 UK Census Craigie, Ayr, Scotland (age 23)
Note:  she is a servant living in Robert Parker's home.  She is a dairy maid
1871 UK Census Craigie, Ayr, Scotland (age 34)
Note:  married, now upgraded to Dairy Manager
Marriage: Scotland Marriages 1561-1910 Batch M11584-1 Film 6035516
Children: Scotland births and baptisms 1564-1950
Family Search
ancestry.com
James Howat
Born 5 Feb 1839 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Christened:  24 Feb 1839 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Died May 1839
Buried
Sources
Family Search
ancestry.com
Jean Howat
Born 11 Apr 1840 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Christened 13 Aug 1840 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Died 26 Nov 1860 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Note:  I've never found the source for burial that was recorded on Family Search
Buried
Sources
Birth and Christening: Scotland Births and Baptisms 1564-1950
Christening: IGI Film 1041404 Batch C116114 dated 1820-1854
1841 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland (age 1)
Note:  address was Old Engine
Family Search
ancestry.com
Hugh Howat
Born 1841 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Died as an infant
Sources
Family Search
ancestry.com
Euphemia Howat
Born 1843 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Married 1) James Brown 28 July 1882 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Children: Jeannie, John
2) Thomas Caddies 31 December 1897 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Note:  I've seen three different marriages for her - one with David Muir in 1860 which was what I originally thought was correct, but wasn't.  Why?  Euphemia was in the 1861 census with her parents!  I later discovered there are TWO Euphemia Howat's in the same area.  The other married David.  

Euphemia's and James Brown's marriage 


Died 1902
Buried
Sources
Marriage Record (shown above)
1851 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland (age 8)
Note: address was Howies Square 
1861 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 17)
Note:  same address as 1851
Family Search
ancestry.com
Agnes Howat
Born 1845 Dreghorn, Ayr, Scotland
Married ?  There are TWO Agnes Howats in the area.  One has the middle name Elizabeth and that Agnes married James Torrence.  I have not found any marriage or children for this Agnes.
Died
Buried
Sources
1851 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland (age 6)
Note: address was Howies Square
Family Search
ancestry.com
William Howat
Born 1848 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Died Feb 1863 (age 13y)
Sources
1851 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland (age 3)
Note: address was Howies Square
Family Search
ancestry.com
Mary Howat
Born 1850 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Married George Wilson 30 Dec 1870 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Children:  Hugh, Janet, Elizabeth, Hugh, Isabella, Janet
Died
Buried
Sources
1851 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland (age 1)
Note: address was Howies Square
1861 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 10)
Note:  same address as 1851
1871 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 19)
1901 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 51)
Marriage: IGI Film 6035516 Batch M115931 dated 1855-1875
Family Search
ancestry.com
Grace Howat
Born 30 Apr 1853 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Married William Bruce Hendrie 29 Nov 1871 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Children:  Robert, Lillian, Marion, Jane, William, Hugh
Died
Buried 
Sources
1861 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 8)
Note: address was Howies Square
1871 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 18)
Note:  address 6 Ironwork Square
Marriage: IGI Film 6035516 Batch M115931 dated 1855-1875
1891 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 74, living with mother, going by surname Bruce)
Note:  address 31 Ironwork Square
Family Search
ancestry.com
Janet Howat Grieve
Janet <i>Howat</i> Grieve
Janet's headstone
*Janet Howat
Born 10 Dec 1855 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Married William Grieve 28 Jun 1874 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Children: William, Peter, Hugh, Annabella, Lillias, Jeanette, James, Violet, Christina, Margaret
Died 29 Nov 1935 Plain City, Weber, Utah
Buried 1 Dec 1935 Plain City Cemetery, Plain City, Weber, Utah
Sources
Birth:  IGI batch C115931 Film 6035516 dated 1855-1875
Marriage:  IGI Film 6035516 Batch M11593-1 dated 1855-1875 also Scotland Marriages 1561-1910 Film 6035516 Batch M11593-1
Utah Death Certificate
Family Search
ancestry.com
Hugh Howat
Born 4 Sep 1858 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Died May 1879 (age 20y)
Sources
Birth: IGI Film 6035516 Batch C115931 dated 1855-1875
1861 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 2)
Note: address was Howies Square
Family Search
ancestry.com

Thursday, June 4, 2009

Hugh Findlay and Lilias Cleland

Coal Miner Family

Hugh Findlay
Parents: John Findlay and (possibly) Margaret Campbell
Born 1785 Scotland
Occupation:  Coal Miner
Married Lillias Cleland 11 Dec 1801 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland

Hugh Findlay and Lillias Cleland's marriage record

Died 
Buried
Sources
Marriage:  Kilmarnock Parish Register - also FHL Film number 1041386
To find our more about Kilmarnock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilmarnock
ancestry.com
Family Search
Lilias Cleland
Parents:  Alexander Cleland and Mary Houston
Note about parentage:  I have seen Archibald Cleland and Jean Stewart listed as her parents, but this would be impossible as the birth and christening for THAT Lilias was in December of 1798 and the marriage between Hugh and Lilias took place in 1801, with firstborn child in 1802.  On top of this is the fact, there is a Mary Houston Findlay in this group of children, which ties back to this Lilias's mother.
Born:  about 1785 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Died 12 May 1835 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Buried
Sources
Family Search
ancestry.com

CHILDREN 

James Findlay
Born 31 October 1802 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Occupation: Coal Miner


Married Elizabeth Holland 22 Dec 1822 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Children: Hugh, John, unnamed boy, Elizabeth, Mary, James, David, Lillie, Caroline
Immigration:  At the age of 30, (1832) he took his wife and four children on the Ship "Mercator" and after a voyage of 35 days, landed in New Glasgow, Nova Scotia

The ship Mercator
Died 16 July 1877 Pennsylvania
Buried: Huffs Union Cemetery, Huffs Church, Berks, Pennsylvania
James Findlay headstone
Note the Mason's symbol

Good information about his young life, but the following two pages regarding
his adult life and family born in Nova Scotia and the move to Pennsylvania were missing!
Sources
Picture of ship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_(ship)
Book:  History of Berks county in Pennsylvania, By Morton L Montgomery, Pub 1886 page 1055
Family Search
ancestry.com
Nova Scotia Finlay family:  http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ac794/genea/finley.html
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/31644908/james-findlay
Alexander Findlay
Born 17 Oct 1804 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Occupation: Coal Miner (1841-51)
Marriage: Janet Richmond 22 July 1825 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Children: Agnes, Lilias, Hugh, James, Janet, John, Margaret, Thomas, Jean
Died 28 February 1862
Buried
Sources
1841 Scotland Census (age 35)
1851 Scotland Census (age 46)
Family Search
ancestry.com
Hugh and children memorial
Erected by Hugh - see 
transcription below
Hugh Findlay
Born 20 Feb 1807 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Occupation: Coal Miner (1851-1871) Coal Miner and Grocer (1861)  
Married Elizabeth Wallace Brown 05 Oct 1827 Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland
Children: Hugh, Elizabeth, Lillias, Agnes, William, James, Mary, Hugh, Robert
Died 11 June 1873 Hurlford, Ayr, Scotland
Buried Kilmarnock Low Churchyard, East Ayrshire, Scotland

from findagrave
Erected by Hugh Findlay, thirdpart 
in memory of his son of Hugh Findlay died 2 Oct 1844 (17y)
and of his daughter Lillias Findlay died 17 Nov 1864 (13y)
also of his son Robert died 31 March 1856 (7y)
Also of the said Hugh Findlay died 11 June 1873 (66y)
Father Hugh Findlay died in Gargeston 9 Oct 1845 (64y)

Sources
1851 Scotland Census Portland Row, Kyle, Ayr, Scotland (age 42)
1861 Scotland Census Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland (age 54)
1871 Scotland Census Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland (age 64)
Scotland Marriages
Family Search
ancestry.com
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/173563086/hugh-findlay
David Findlay
Born 20 Feb 1809 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Occupation: Coal Miner (1841-1871) Underground Manager (1861) 
Married 1) Susan Strachan 23 May 1832 Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland
Children: Hugh, Peter, Mary, Helen, James  
2) Margaret Brown abt 1849 Scotland
Children:  David, Margaret, Agnes, Alexander, Robert, John
Died 30 June 1873 Galston, Ayrshire, Scotland
COD: Softening of brain (probably dementia) and apoplexy (heart attack)
Buried: Scotland
Sources
1841 UK Census Riccarton, Ayrshire, Scotland, United Kingdom (age 30)
1851 UK Census Portland Row, Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland (age 42)
1861 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland (age 52)
1871 UK Census Titchfield Street, Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 62)
Death Record
Family Search
ancestry.com
Mary Houston Findlay
Born 8 May 1811 Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland
Married 1) James Muir 22 June 1832 Auchinleck, Ayr, Scotland
Children:  Andrew, Hugh, Hugh, Elizabeth, John

Mary and John's marriage record

2) Peter Mcluskie  20 January 1852 Riccarton, Ayrshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Children:  Catherine, Lillias

Mary and Peter's marriage record

3) James McGhee 26 Jan 1857 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
No Children together
Died 17 January 1886 Prestwick, Ayr, Scotland
COD:  Cerebral Apoplexy

Mary Houston Findlay Muir McLusky Mchee death record

Buried 17 January 1886 Prestwick, Ayr, Scotland
Sources
1841 UK Census Ayr, Scotland (age 25)
1851 UK Census Paisley Middle Church, Renfrewshire, Scotland (age 37)
1861 UK Census Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland (age 47)
Marriage Records with all three husbands
Death record
Family Search
ancestry.com
Jean Findlay
Born 31 Aug 1813  Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland
Died
Buried
Sources
Family Search
ancestry.com
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3rd ggmother
*
Janet 
Findlay

Christened 6 April 1816 St Quivox and Newton, Ayr, Scotland
Married William Howat 18 Nov 1856 St Quivox and Newton, Ayr, Scotland
Children: Lillias, James, Jean, Hugh, Euphemia, Agnes, William, Mary, Grace, Janet, Hugh
Occupation:  Cotton Weaver (1871)
Died 25 March 1898 Scotland
Buried
Sources
Marriage: IGI Film 1041406 Batch M116128 dated 1820-1854
1841 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Note:  address was Old Engine
1851 UK Census Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Note: address was Howies Square 
1861 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Note:  same address as 1851
1871 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Note:  address 6 Ironwork Square
1881 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 63, widow)
Note:  same address as 1871
1891 UK Census Galston, Ayr, Scotland (age 74, widow, living with daughter Grace and kids)
Note:  address 31 Ironwork Square
Family Search
ancestry.com

John Findlay
Born 18 Aug 1818  Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland
Occupation: Coal Miner (1841)
Married Janet McGee
Children: Mary, Lillias, Hugh, Agnes
Died
Buried
Sources
1841  UK Census Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland (age 20, with parents)
1851 UK Census Nourish Bank, Kyle, Ayr, Scotland (age 32)
Family Search
ancestry.com
Archibald Findlay
Born 02 Jun 1821  Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland
Occupation: Ironstone Miner 
Married Elizabeth Shields 9 Dec 1843  Beith, Ayr, Scotlandand
Children: Ann, Ann, Lilias, Hugh, Elizabeth, Archibald, Mary, James
Died 18 Feb 1860  Kilbirnie, Ayrshire, Scotland
COD:  apoplexy (heart attack)
Archibald's death record

Buried
Sources
1851 Scotland Census Kyle, Ayr, Scotland (age 30)
Marriage: Scotland Marriages
 Death Record
Family Search
ancestry.com

William Stewart 1777

William Stewart
Born abt 1777 Arbuthnott, Kincardine, Scotland
Source
Ancestral File


CHILDREN

*Jean Stewart
Christened 31 Aug 1803 Arbuthnott, Kincardine, Scotland
Married George Ferrier abt 1825
Children:  Isabel
Source
Ancestral File
Robert Stewart
Christened 31 Dec 1805 Arbuthnott, Kincardine, Scotland
Source
Ancestral File
IGI Film 0993387 Batch C112505 dated 1801-1819
David Stewart
Born abt 1808 Arbuthnott, Kincardine, Scotland
Source
Ancestral File

George Ferrier 1799 Jean Stuart 1803

George Ferrier
Note:  I'm not 100% sure this is the right information.  There is another George Ferrier born in 1802 in Brechin, Angus, Scotland who also has parents named John and Margaret
Born 22 Nov 1799
Christened 24 Nov 1799 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Parents John Ferrier and Margaret Killer
Married Abt 1825
Sources
IGI Film 0993424 Batch C112826 dated 1785-1802

Jean Stuart
Christened 31 Aug 1803 Arbuthnott, Kincardine, Scotland
Sources
Ancestral File

CHILDREN

*Isabel Ferrier
27 Feb 1826 Birse, Aberdeen, Scotland
Married Peter Grieve 23 Dec 1848 Arbuthnott or Bervie, Kincardine, Scotland
Note:  her name given as Isabella in the record
Died 9 Jul 1867, Kineff &Catterline, Kincardine, Scotland
Source
AF
Christening: Scotland Births and Baptisms 1564-1950 Batch C11175-4 Film 991258 and IGI Film 0991258 Batch C111754 dated 1820-1855
Marriage: IGI Batch M112546 Film 0993310 dated 1818-1854

Wednesday, June 3, 2009

John Grieve 1672 Elizabeth Brown 1675

John Grieve
Christened 9 Jan 1672 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Parents: John Grieve and unknown mother
Married Elizabeth Brown 1697
Source
Christening: IGI Film 0993495-97 Batch 113122 dated 1615-1696
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,236860.0.html
Family Search

Elizabeth Brown
Born Abt 1675
Source
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,236860.0.html
Family Search

CHILDREN

Alexander Grieve
Christened 27 Apr 1698 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Possible marriage to Euphan Culbert 3 Jul 1718 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Sources
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,236860.0.html
Christening: IGI Film 0993496 Batch 113125 dated 1697-1820
Possible marriage: Scotland Marriages Batch M112822 Film 993400
Jean Grieve
Christened 14 Dec 1699 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Sources
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,236860.0.html
IGI Film 0993496 Batch 113125 dated 1697-1820
*James Grieve (twin of John)
Christened 3 Nov 1701 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Married Margaret Greig 24 May 1716 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Sources
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,236860.0.html
IGI Film 0993496 Batch 113125 dated 1697-1820
John Grieve (twin of James)
Christened 20 Nov 1701 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Sources
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,236860.0.html
IGI Film 0993496 Batch 113125 dated 1697-1820
William Grieve
Christened 21 Sep 1703 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Sources
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,236860.0.html
IGI Film 0993496 Batch 113125 dated 1697-1820
Charles Grieve
Christened 18 Sep 1704 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Sources
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,236860.0.html
IGI Film 0993496 Batch 113125 dated 1697-1820
Elizabeth Grieve
Christened 18 Aug 1706
Sources
IGI Film 0993496 Batch 113125 dated 1697-1820
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,236860.0.html
Andrew Grieve
Christened 19 Apr 1709 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Sources
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,236860.0.html
IGI Film 0993496 Batch 113125 dated 1697-1820
David Grieve
Christened 7 Jun 1710 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Sources
IGI Film 0993496 Batch 113125 dated 1697-1820
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,236860.0.html

Robert Grieve 1721 Isabel Bran

Robert Grieve
Christened 15 Jan 1721 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Married Isabel Bran 27 Jul 1742 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Sources
Ancestral File

Isabel Bran
Christening I currently have 2 choices, both sourced
1) Isabell Bran 22 Jan 1721 Brechin, Angus, Scotland where her parents are James Bran and Isabell Dall
2) Isobel Bran 27 Jul 1720 Garvock, Kincardine, Scotland where her parents are William Bran and M Blacklaws
Sources
IGI

CHILDREN

Alexander Grieve
Christened 2 Jan 1743 Scotland
Possible marriage to Mary Anderson 20 May 1770 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Sources
Marriage:  Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910 Film 993325 Batch M11267-2
Ancestral File
Thomas Grieve
Christened 5 May 1745 Scotland
Possible marriage to Helen Stewart 29 May 1766 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Sources
Marriage: Scotland Marriages 1561-1910 Film 993400 Batch M11282-2
Ancestral File
Margaret Grieve
Christened 18 May 1746 Scotland
Married Robert Adamson 7 Jun 1770 Arbroath, Angus, Scotland
Sources
Marriage: IGI Film 0993331-32 Batch M112722 dated 1653-1771
Ancestral File

I think there is likely a child, perhaps two, that were born between Margt and Janet - otherwise there's a nine year span.

Janet Grieve
Christened 22 Jul 1755 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Note: The surnames are spelled Greeve in record. No mother is listed.
Source
IGI Film 0993325 Batch C112672 dated 1696-1780
*James Grieve
Christened 15 Jan 1758 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Married Helen Grant 22 Dec 1768 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Children: James, Katherine, Peter, Richard, William
Source
Christening: IGI Film 0993325 Batch C112672 dated 1696-1780
Charles Grieve
Christened 6 Feb 1763 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Sources
IGI Film 0993325 Batch C112672 dated 1696-1780
Ancestral File

Tuesday, June 2, 2009

James Grieve 1701 Margaret Grieg 1708

Note:  not convinced these records are right - unless James was christened a bit later than usual, he would only be 15 at time of his marriage and his bride only 8!

James Grieve 
Christened 3 Nov 1701 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Parents:  John Grieve and Elizabeth Brown
Note:  Parents names abbreviated to Jo. and Eliz. Surname spelled Greive in record
Married Margaret Grieg 24 May 1716 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Note: his surname given as Griev, her name abbreviated Margt. in record
Sources
Christening:  IGI film 0993496 Batch C113125 Dated 1697-1820
Marriage: IGI Film 0102662 Batch M113122 dated 1658-1819
Ancestral File

Margaret Grieg
Christened 13 Aug 1708 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Parents:  John Griege and Elizabeth Naughtie?
Sources
Christening:  IGI Film 0993496 Batch C113125 dated 1697-1820
Ancestral File

CHILDREN

Catherine Grieve
Christened 22 Jan 1719 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Note: Name abbreviated as Cath. and surname as Griev on record
Source
IGI Film 0993496 Batch C113125 dated 1697-1820
*(Robert?) Grieve
Christened 13 Nov 1720 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Note: Not positive about this one.  Two reasons 1) The record had no given name for the child and the mother's name was extracted as Marjory in record. However, the mother's unusual surname as well as the father's name matched.  Montrose is close to St Cyrus. 2)  the next child is christened six months later - of course, Robert could have been born earlier and just christened at this time.  Need more investigation.
Married:  Isabel Bran 27 Jul 1742 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Source
IGI Film 0993325 Batch C112672 dated 1696-1780
Elizabeth Grieve
Christened 13 May 1721 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Note: name abbreviated as Eliz. surname Greiv. Father abbreviated as Ja. and Mother as Margt.
Sources
IGI Film 0993496 Batch C113125 dated 1697-1820
Margaret Grieve 
Christening 25 Nov 1723 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Note: Name abbreviated as Margt. surname spelled Griev. Father as Ja. and Mother as Margt.
Sources
IGI Film 0993496 Batch C113125 dated 1697-1820
James Grieve
Christened 17 Aug 1727 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Note: Mother's name abbreviated as Margt. in record.
Married Mary Hampton 31 Oct 1749 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Sources
Christening: IGI Film 0993496 Batch C113125 dated 1697-1820
Marriage: IGI Film 0102662 Batch M113122 dated 1658-1819

James Grieve 1758 Helen Grant

This family group is an excellent example of how much confusion can arise when dates and sources are not verified.  The only verifiable date (so far) is son James' marriage to Janet.

James Grieve
Christened 15 Jan 1758 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Parents: Robert Grieve and Isabel Bran
Married Helen Grant 22 Dec 1768 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
NOTE: This can't be the correct wedding date - he would be ten and she would be eight. It is much more likely an typo and should be 1778, even then, I couldn't find any marriage for them in St Cyrus and if they had been married in 1778, the children's dates are off.
Source
Christening: IGI Film 0993325 Batch C112672 dated 1696-1780
Ancestral File

Helen Grant
Born 21 Jul 1760 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Note: I did not find her on IGI in Kincardine, nor is this date possible if their first child was born in 1772 - she would only be 12. Her birthdate must be earlier.
Source
Ancestral File

CHILDREN I only found James' marriage and nothing else in St Cyrus

*James Grieve
Christened 11 May 1772 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Married Janet Smith 9 Jul 1796 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Children:  Catherine, William, Helen, James, Jean, Peter
Sources
Marriage: IGI Film 0993325 Batch M112674 dated 1781- 1826
Ancestral File
Katherine Grieve
Christened 11 May 1772 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Source
Ancestral File
Peter Grieve
Christened 1774
Married Jean Spence abt 1804 (based on the firstborn child's bdt)
Children: Peter, James, Thomas, Helen, Alexander, George, John, May, Keith Imray, Elizabeth
Note:  the children were born in Bervie
Source
Ancestral File
William Grieve
Christened 4 Oct 1778 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Source
Ancestral File
Richard Grieve
Christened 29 Oct 1779 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Source
Ancestral File

Monday, June 1, 2009

James Grieve 1772 Janet Smith

Perhaps someone has the correct information and sources. If so, please let me know. I will post new sources and/or info when it comes.
James Grieve
Christened 11 May 1772 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Note: I did not find him on the IGI for this time period nor anywhere in IGI for Kincardine. My conclusion is that it is the wrong place.
Parents: James Grieve and Helen Grant
Married Janet Smith 9 Jul 1796 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Sources
Marriage: IGI Film 0993325 Batch M112674 dated 1781-1826
Ancestral File

Janet Smith There are several Janet Smith's that are possibilities
Christening
Sources
Ancestral File

CHILDREN - I never found any of these children on IGI except James

Catherine Grieve
Christening 13 Sep 1798 Bervie, Kincardine, Scotland
SourcesAncestral File
*William Grieve
Born 9 Sep 1801 Milton, Kincardine, Scotland
Christening 12 Sep 1801 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Note: I didn't find William in any of the St Cyrus Kincardine records.
Married Anne Brown 14 Jan 1826 St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland
Note:  they are also listed on IGI as being married in Lunan, Angus, Scotland on the same day.  This may be part of law when everyone was required to be married in Church of England if you wanted the union to be legal and then you could marry wherever you wanted - just a guess.
Children:  Elizabeth, Patrick(Peter), Jean, William, Alexander, James, Ann, Charles
SourcesMarriage:  IGI Film 0991896 Batch M113054 dated 1820-1954
Ancestral File
Helen Grieve
Christening 1802
SourceAncestral File
James Grieve
Christening 22 May 1804 Benholm, Kincardine, Scotland
Note: mother's surname on the record is Smyth
SourceIGI Film 0993309 Batch C112534 dated 1749-1820
Ancestral File
Jean Grieve
Christening 1805
SourceAncestral File
Peter Grieve
Christening 1806
SourceAncestral File