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Wednesday, May 27, 2009

Patrick (Peter) Grieve 1829 Isabella Ferrier 1826- by 1868

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Paternal
3 Great grandparents

Farm laborer
Patrick (a.k.a. Peter) Grieve
Parents: William Grieve and Ann Brown

Born 2 May 1829 Benholm, Kincardine, Scotland

ABOUT KINCARDINE: Kincardineshire, with its diversified soil and situation and with an elevation reaching over 2000 ft. The county as a whole is remarkably rich in the number and the variety of its wild plants, while several spots within it have acquired more than a local reputation as a hunting ground for the botanist.

Notice Bervie and Benholm near the east coast

Christened 10 May 1829 Benholm, Kincardine, Scotland
Occupation: Farm Laborer (1851) Ploughman (1861) Agricultural Laborer (1871) Farm Servant Ploughman (1891) Gardeners Laborer (1901)

Married 1) Isabella Ferrier 22 Dec 1848 Arbuthnott, Kincardine, Scotland

Peter and Isabella's marriage record
Transcript: Marriage Register 1848
Peter Grieve in this parish and Isabella Ferrier in the Parish of Arbuthnott gave
in their names for proclamation of marriage on 9th December and
were married on 22nd Dec 1848

Where Peter and Isabella were married

2) Christina Bruce 2 Dec 1868 Glenbervie, Kincardine, Scotland

Children: Margaret

Died: 10 Oct 1912 Montrose, Angus, Scotland

Buried 14 October 1912 Sleepyhillock Cemetery, Montrose, Angus, Scotland

Note: there is no headstone
Sources
Christening: IGI Film 0993309 Batch C112535 dated 1820-1854
Marriage to Isabella: IGI Film 0993387 Batch M112506 dated 1820-1854
If the marriage took place in Bervie: IGI Film 099310 Batch M112546 dated 1818-1854
Marriage to Christina: IGI Film 6035516 Batch M112611 dated 1855-1875
1851 Census Westerton Cottage, Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland (age 21, with Isabella and William)
1861 Census Cottar Street Midtown, Kinneff and Caterline, Kincardine, Scotland GS Ser #14511 pt 64 (age 31)
1871 Census Scotston, Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland (with second wife) (age 41)

1881 Census Lower Scotston, Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland (with second wife) (age 50)
1891 Census Fettercairn, Kincardine, Scotland (with second wife) (age 60)

1901 Census Hedderick House, Montrose, Angus, Scotland (with second wife) (age 71)

Map of Kincardineshire: https://www.europa1900.eu/images/Greatbritain/Scotland/Kincardineshire/Kincardineshire.jpg

The 'about' information and the picture of Arbuthnott church: https://www.electricscotland.com/history/kincardinshire/chapter16.htm

Memorial: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/131858371/patrick-grieve
Isabella Ferrier
Parents: George Ferrier and Jean Stuart

Christened 27 Feb 1826 Birse, Aberdeen, Scotland
Died 9 July 1867 Kineff, Kincardineshire, Scotland

Buried
Sources
Christening: IGI Film 0991258 Batch C111754 dated 1820-1855
1851 Census Westerton Cottage, Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland (age 22)

1861 Census Cottar Street Midtown, Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardine, Scotland GS Ser #14511 pt 64 (age 33)

Note: her surname was misspelled Fennie

CHILDREN WITH ISABELLA

William Grieve

*William Grieve
Born 9 June 1850 Archen Blay, Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland
Christening 29 Jun 1850 Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland
Note: Mother's name is spelled Isobel in record.
Occupation: Farmer

Married Janet Howat 28 Jun 1874 Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Children: William, Peter, Hugh, Annabella, Lillias, Jeanette, James, Violet, Christina, Margaret

William Grieve headstone

Died 9 November 1924 Plain City, Weber, Utah

COD: Lobar Pneumonia

Note: this type of pneumonia affects a specific lobe of the lung.

Informant: Mrs. L.E. Wilkinson who is their daughter, Margot

Buried 12 Nov 1924 Plain City Cemetery, Plain City, Weber, Utah

William Grieve death certificate

Sources
1851 Census Westerton Cottage, Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland (age 8 months)

1861 Census Cottar Street Midtown, Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardine, Scotland GS Ser #14511 pt 64 (age 10)

Picture: Family Search
Birth and Christening: Scotland Births and Baptisms 1564-1950 Film 993317 Batch C11259-7 and IGI Film 0993316-17 Batch 112597 dated 1820-1855
Marriage: Scotland Marriages 1561-1910 Film 6035516 Batch M11593-1and IGI Film 60335516 Batch M115931 dated 1855-1875
Temple Marriage information: Utah Marriages 1887-1966 Film 430305 Batch M73408-4

News clipping of their 50th wedding anniversary celebration

Death Certificate
James Grieve
Born 22 May 1854 Forfar, Angus, Scotland
Christened 12 Jun 1854 Farnell, Angus, Scotland
Note: Mother's name is spelled Isabel in record
Occupation: Servant (1871) Farmer (1891) General Laborer (1901)

Marriage 1) Jane Ferguson about 1877 Scotland

Children: Mary, William, Jemima, Elizabeth, Alexander, James

2) Jane A Mackie 30 March 1912 Mill of Ayr, Scotland

Children: Cecil, William, Frances, Sydney

Died 21 March 1937 New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

James Grieve's death notice

Buried 24 March 1937 New Deer Cemetery, New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Sources
Birth and Christening: Scotland Births and Baptisms 1564-1950 Film 993428 Batch C11286-4 and IGI Film 0993428 Batch C112864 dated 1820-1854

1861 Census Cottar Street Midtown, Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardine, Scotland GS Ser #14511 pt 64 (age 6)

1871 Census Benholm, Kincardineshire, Scotland (age 16 - as a servant)

1891 Census Westburn, Skeene, Aberdeenshire, Scotland (age 38)

1901 Census Lyne of Skeene, Aberdeenshire, Scotland (age 49)

Death notice: Aberdeen Press and Journal - Tuesday 23 March 1937, page 1

Memorial: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/198703529/james-grieve
Patrick (a.k.a. Peter) Grieve
Born 23 November 1856 Dunn, Angus, Scotland
Note: Mother's name is spelled Isabel Firnie in record
Occupation: Carter (1891) Ships Engine Driver (1901)

Military - see the paper below.

Married: Helen Smith 23 June 1883 Aberdeen, Scotland
Children: Helen, Annie, Catherine, Maggie, Jeannie, Charles, John, William

Died 18 Nov 1916 Stonehaven, Kincardine, Scotland

Buried in a pauper's grave and there was a witness (this comes from Family Search)

Sources
Birth: Scotland Births and Baptisms 1564-1950 Film 6035516 Batch C11262-1 and IGI Film 6035516 Batch C112621 dated 1855-1867

1861 Census Cottar Street Midtown, Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardine, Scotland GS Ser #14511 pt 64 (age 4)

1891 Census St. Andrew Street, Aberdeenshire, Scotland (age 34)

1901 Census St Nicholas, Aberdeenshire, Scotland (age 44)
Farquharson Grieve
Born 9 April 1859 Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardine, Scotland
Note: Mother's name is spelled Isabella in record.
Occupation: Farm Bailiff (1891) which is to act as a steward or overseer on a farm Farm Foreman (1901) Farmer Bailiff (1911) Retired Farm Foreman (1939)

Married Emma Jolley April 1885 Warrington, Lancashire, England
Children: William, Peter, Rhoda, Mary, Thomas
Died 9 April 1940 Haymeads, Bishops Stortford, Hertfordshire, England

Buried 1940
Sources
Birth: Scotland Births and Baptisms 1564-1950 Film 6035516 Batch C11262-1 and IGI Film 6035516 Batch C112621 dated 1855-1867
1861 Census Cottar Street Midtown, Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardine, Scotland GS Ser #14511 pt 64 (age 4)

1871 Census Laurencekirk, Kincardineshire, Scotland (age 10)

1891 Census Billinge, Ashton, Lancashire, England (age 31)
1901 Census for High Wych, Hertford, England (age 41)

1911 Census Acton's Farm, High Wych, Hertford, England (age 51)

1939 England and Wales Register: Little Hyde Hall, Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, England (age 80, widower)

England Death and Burial Registration
Isabel Grieve
Born 16 January 1862 Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardine, Scotland
Note: Mother's name is spelled Isabel in record

Died 1862 is what I have seen, but there are no records to substantiate this, so far

Buried
Sources
Birth: Scotland Births and Baptisms 1564-1950 Film 6035516 Batch C11262-1 and IGI Film 6035516 Batch C112621 dated 1855-1867
Anne Grieve
Born 21 March 1864 Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardine, Scotland

Anne's birth record

Note: Mother's name is spelled Isabella in record

Married William Forbes 15 Nov 1889 Fettercairn, Kincardineshire, Scotland

Marriage record for Anne and William

Children: Margaret, William, Mary, Catherine

Died 15 March 1927

Buried
Sources
Birth: Scotland Births and Baptisms 1564-1950 Film 6035516 Batch C11262-1 and IGI Film 6035516 Batch C112621 dated 1855-1867

Picture of the birth register: https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/5/55/Grieve-205.pngAnne Grieve

John Grieve
Born 18 June 1867 Kinneff and Catterline, Kincardine, Scotland
Note: Mother's name is spelled Isabella in record

Occupation: Police Constable (1891)

Died

Buried
Sources
Birth: Scotland Births and Baptisms 1564-1950 Film 6035516 Batch C11262-1 and IGI Film 6035516 Batch C112621 dated 1855-1867
1871 Census Scotston, Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland (age 3)

1881 Census Garvock, Scotland (age 13, servant in the Alexander Mather household)

1891 Census Forfarshire (Angus) Scotland (23, lodger in the Mary Foulds household)

CHILDREN WITH CHRISTINA

Margaret Grieve
Born 17 July 1869 Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland
Sources
IGI Film 6035516 Batch C112633 dated 1868-1875

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From a Funeral Program

When I come to the end of the road

And the sun has set for me

I want no rites in a gloom-filled room

Why cry for a soul set free?

Miss me a little - but not for too long

And not with your head bowed low

Remember the love that we once shared

Miss me, but let me go.

For this is a journey that we all must take

And each must go alone

It's all part of the Master's plan

A step on the road to home.

When you are lonely and sick at heart

Go to the hills we know

And bury your sorrow among the trees

Miss me, but let me go.

The Line

Every minute someone leaves this world behind.
We are all in “the line” without knowing it.
We never know how many people are before us.
We can not move to the back of the line.
We can not step out of the line.
We can not avoid the line.

So while we wait in line -

Make moments count.
Make priorities.
Make the time.
Make your gifts known.
Make a nobody feel like a somebody.
Make your voice heard.
Make the small things big.
Make someone smile.
Make the change.
Make love.
Make up.
Make peace.
Make sure to tell your people they are loved.
Make sure to have no regrets.
Make sure you are ready.

I'm My Own Grandpa

Many, many years ago when I was 23,
I got married to a widow
who was as pretty as could be.
She had a grown up daughter
who had a hair of red.
My father fell in love with her
and soon the two were wed.
This made my dad my son-in-law
And changed my very life.
My daughter was my mother,
for she was my father's wife.
To complicate the matters worse,
although it brought me joy,
I soon became the father
of a bouncing baby boy.
My little baby then became a brother -in-law to dad
and so became my uncle though it made me very sad.
For if he was my uncle,
then that also made him brother to the widow's grown-up- daughter,
who of course, was my stepmother.
Father's wife then had a son,
who kept them on the run.
And he became my grandson, for he was my daughter's son.
My wife is now my mother's mother
and it makes me blue.
Because, although she is my wife,
she's my grandma too.
If my wife is my grandmother,
then I am her grandchild.
and every time I think of it,
it simply makes me wild.
For now I have become the strangest case you ever saw.
As the husband of my grandmother,
I am my own grandpa!

Quotes from the Prophets

President Gordon B Hinckley: "It is good to look to the past to gain appreciation for the present and perspective for the future. It is good to look upon the virtues of those who have gone before, to gain strength for whatever lies ahead. It is good to reflect upon the work of those who labored so hard and gained so little in this world, but out of whose dreams and early plans so well nurtured, has come a great harvest of which we are the beneficiaries. Their tremendous example can become a compelling motivation for us all, for each of us is a pioneer in his own life."

President Spencer W Kimball: "I hope to see us dissolve the artificial boundary line we so often place between missionary work and temple and genealogical work, because it is the same great redemptive work!"

President Joseph Fielding Smith: " The responsibility on behalf of our kindred dead rests with equal force on all, according to our individual ability and opportunities...the greatest and grandest duty of all is to labor for the dead."

The Passing of the Pot (Chamber Pot)

As far back in childhood
As memory may go
One household vessel greets me
That wasn't made for show
Beneath the bed twas anchored
Where only few could see
But served the entire family
With equal privacy
Some called the critter Peggy
And some the thundermug
And others called it badger
A few called it jug
To bring it in at evening
Was bad enough no doubt
But heaven help the person
Who had to take it out
Our big one was enormous
And would accomodate
A watermelon party
Composed of six or eight
When nights were dark and rainy
It was a useful urn
On icy winter mornings
The cold rim seemed to burn
At times when things were rushing
And business extra good
Each took his turn a waiting
Or did the best he could
Sometimes when in a hurry
To our disgust and shame
We fumbled in the darkness
And slightly missed our aim
The special one for company
Was decorated well
But just the same it rendered
That old familiar smell
Today this modernism
Relieves me a lot
And only in my vision
I see that homely pot.
(author unknown)

Poem about ancestors

Though steep is the path I follow today,
The footprints of time will show me the way.
For many have traveled a smiliar road,
And carried an equal of heavier load.

No troubles I face are new to this earth,
That man has not faced from time of his birth.
The route has been charted and roads have been paved
By legions before me who were stalwart and brave.

Their steps never faltered nor courage grew dim,
For they trusted the Lord and let Him led them.
If my faith and my trust remain steadfast and true,
God will guide and protect me in all that I do.
- Dolores Karides

The Elusive Ancestor

I went searching for an ancestor.
I cannot find him still.
He moved around from place to place
and did not leave a will.
He married where a courthouse burned.
He mended all his fences.
He avoided any man who came to
take the US census

He always kept his luggage packed,
This man who had no fame,
and every 20 years or so,
This rascal changed his name.
No one else inthis world is
searching for this elusive man,
so I play "Gene-solitaire"
To find him, if I can!

I'm told he's buried in a plot,
with tombstone he was blessed;
but the weather took engravings,
and some vandals took the rest.
He died before the county clerks
were appointed to keep records
No family Bible has emerged -
In spite of all my efforts.

To top it off, this elusive ancestor
who has caused me many groans -
left me even one more challenge:
He brothed a lady,
by the name of "Jones"!
(Got this from a publication
put out by the DUP organization
that names the author: Merrell Kenworthy)

Poem: Heaven's Door

If I should go before you,

If life on earth were through;

I'll stop just inside Heaven's door,

and there I'll wait for you.

You've but to look 'cross star filled skies,

Past the moon and then beyond;

To know my leaving could never break,

This heart's undying bond.

And if you should go before me,

If your journey on earth were through;

You know I will be close behind,

I'll never be far from you.

Across the span of time and space,

This love will reach this far;

For you'll always carry a bit of my heart,

No matter where you are.

Allison Chambers Coxsey©1995 ~ All Rights Reserved

Which Shall It Be? by Adelaide Proctor

Which shall it be?

"Which shall it be? Which shall it be?
I looked at John and John looked at me,
And when I found that I must speak,
My voice seemed strangely low and weak:
˜Tell me again what Robert said,"
And then I, listening, bent my head.
This is his letter:˜I will give
A house and land while you shall live,
If, in return, from out your seven,
One child to me for aye is given."

I looked at John's old garments worn;
I thought of all that he had borne
Of poverty, and work, and care,
Which I, though willing, could not share;
I thought of seven young mouths to feed,
Of seven little children's need,
And then of this.

˜Come, John,said I,
We'll choose among them as they lie
Asleep. So, walking hand in hand,
Dear John and I surveyed our band:
First to the cradle lightly stepped,
Where Lilian, the baby, slept.
Softly the father stooped to lay
His rough hand down in a loving way,
When dream or whisper made her stir,
And huskily he said: ˜Not her!"

We stooped beside the trundle bed,
And one long ray of twilight shed
Athwart the boyish faces there,
In sleep so beautiful and fair;
I saw on James rough, red cheek
A tear undried. E'er John could speak,
He's but a baby, too," said I,
And kissed him as we hurried by.

Pale, patient, Robbie's angel face
Still in his sleep bore suffering's trace.
˜No, for a thousand crowns, not him!"
He whispered, while our eyes were dim.
Poor Dick! bad Dick! our wayward son”
Turbulent, restless, idle one”
Could he be spared?
Nay, He who gave
Bade us befriend him to the grave;
Only a mother's heart could be
Patient enough for such as he;
˜And so," said John, ˜I would not dare
To take him from her bedside prayer."

Then stole we softly up above,
And knelt by Mary, child of love;
˜Perhaps for her ˜twould better be,"
I said to John. Quite silently
He lifted up a curl that lay
Across her cheek in a wilful way,
And shook his head: ˜Nay, love, not thee,
The while my heart beat audibly.

Only one more, our eldest lad,
Trusty and truthful, good and glad,
So like his father. ˜No, John, no!
I cannot, will not, let him go."

And so we wrote, in courteous way,
We could not give one child away;
And afterward toil lighter seemed,
Thinking of that of which we dreamed,
Happy in truth that not one face
Was missed from its accustomed place;
Thankful to work for all the seven,
Trusting the rest to One in heaven."

Wednesday, May 27, 2009

Patrick (Peter) Grieve 1829 Isabella Ferrier 1826- by 1868

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