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Robert Flint abt 1705 Susanna Bauman 1709

Whenever possible, I like to include links from experts on family lines and this site belongs to David Burton Flint, author of several books, including the historical fiction concerning this family called, "The Life and Times of Robert Flint the Pioneer" His website gave this family character, flavor, and life. Even better, he has a personal investment in getting this information out. He is one of the descendants of Alexander, Robert's 2nd son. David was kind enough to allow me to put his link here:
http://www.dbflint-colonial-wars.com/ancientflintburial.html
Note: DEAD LINK(S)
I was just warned by Ken (see comments below) that there are dead links on this page. I have not done research on this line since 2010. I will do my best to fix them as I go through and replace what Google ruined when they removed all the pictures. I am currently writing/researching another novel and working on my own family history line (this is my husband's line).
Here is a working link (as of 2017) about David, complete with picture and some personal history: http://www.authorsden.com/davidburtonflint
Do yourselves a favor and take a gander at what it provides. You'll enjoy reading about David's journey and ultimate find - the family graveyard. Thank you, David.
Note: If you are traveling in New York, the Cherry Valley Museum has some items that belonged to Robert Flint.

Another site concerning this area and families in the area: http://www.fortklock.com/Contents.htm

Note: Bowman’s creek was also known as Sprout Brook then Canajoharie Creek in the town of Canajoharie, New York.

Robert Flint
Born Abt 1705 New York
Parents: John Ephraim Flint (unknown mother)
Married 1) Susanna Bauman 1 Jan 1732 Reformed Church, Schoharie, Schoharie, New York
2) Joanna Hand (lots of possible dates for marriage, the funniest one is 1832 - which is 33 years after Robert died)
Military: French and Indian War
1790 Census states Flint, Robert had the following number of people in his household:1 -Free white males over 16 years
4 -Free white males under 16 years
2-Free white females
0 -All other free persons
1-Slaves
Died 1799 Sprout Brook, Montgomery, New York
Buried Family burial ground, Sprout Brook, Montgomery, New York
Note: If you want an inspirational story about how this grave was found and how it provided the inspiration for an historical novel about this American family, please go to David Flints website
Sources
David Flint, author
1790 Census for Canajoharie County gathered from http://montgomery.nygenweb.net/canajoharie.html
Headstone: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=50144397
Susanna Bauman
Born 27 Mar 1709 Sprout Brook, Montgomery, New York
Parents: John Adam Bauman and Susanna Catherina Dresch
Died 1792 (this has to be wrong since we know Robert's second wife, Joanna, died that same year and Robert wasn't a polygamist) Susanna's death had to be after 1742, the year Robert, their youngest son, was born. The other option is that they are the same woman - however, in light of the birth of the last son (Isaac) taking place in 1768, when Susanna would be 59 years old, I rather doubt it.
Sources
Family Search

2nd Wife: Joanna Hand
Note: I included her here because her stone was so cool - the fact they used regular stones to mark the graves is both educational and a sign that someone cared enough to do it.
Born abt 1725 or later
Parents: Josiah Hand and Mary Halsey
Died 1792 Canajoharie, New York
Buried: Family Burial Ground, Sprout Brook, Montgomery, New York Note: you can barely see it, but the date is in the upper left hand corner of the rock and her initials are on its face (J.F.)
Sources
David Flint, author
Memorial: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=50144419

CHILDREN - Robert's and Susanna's

Adam Flint
Born 10 Oct 1732 Canajoharie, Montgomery, New York
Christened 23 Nov 1735 First Dutch Reformed Church, Albany, Albany, New York
Note: Father's given name spelled Robbert surname given as Flindt and mother's surname given as Flind. They used her married name, not her maiden name.
Married Mary Elizabeth Horning 1766
Children: Maria, Susanna, Elizabeth, Adam, William, Margaret, Hannah
1790 Census states Flint, Adam had the following number of people in his household:
2 -Free white males over 16 years
2 -Free white males under 16 years
5 -Free white females
0 -All other free persons
*-Illegible number of Slaves
Military: Served in French and Indian War, appears on roster of Oriskany as Private
Died Before 12 Feb 1829
Sources
Ancestral File
Christening: IGI Book - Call number 974.7 C4H 1906
David Flint, author
Roster of Oriskany heroes: http://www.fortklock.com/namesoriskany.htm
1790 Census for Canajoharie County gathered from http://montgomery.nygenweb.net/canajoharie.html
Memorial: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=176755164
Elizabeth Flint
Born abt 1735 Canajoharie, Montgomery, New York
Sources
Ancestral File
Alexander Flint
Born Nov 1737 Albany, Albany, New York
Occupation: Tavern Owner
Military: American Revolution, appears on roster of Oriskany as Private
Married Cornelia Van Alstyne (possibly a cousin) 1759
Children: John, Susanna, Abraham, Martin, Jacob, Robert
1790 Census states he had the following number of people in his household:
2 -Free white males over 16 years
3 -Free white males under 16 years
7 -Free white females
0 -All other free persons
0 -Slaves
Died 1810 Sprout Brook, Montgomery, New York
Buried: Family Burial Ground, Sprout Brook, Montgomery, New York
Sources
David Flint, author
Roster of Oriskany heroes: http://www.fortklock.com/namesoriskany.htm
1790 Census for Canajoharie County gathered from http://montgomery.nygenweb.net/canajoharie.html
John Flint
Born 10 Oct 1739 Albany, Albany, New York
Military: American Revolution, appears on roster of Oriskany as Private
Married 1) Catherine (Laney) Hickey abt 1760 New York
2) Susanna Bowman abt 1781
Children: Jacob, Martin, Christina, Elizabeth
Note: I only found four of ten children - perhaps the other six were from Catherine?
1790 Census states he had the following number of people in his household:
3 -Free white males over 16 years
1 -Free white males under 16 years
6 -Free white females
0 -All other free persons
0 -Slaves
Died 12 Jan 1795 Canjahorie, Montgomery, New York
Buried 14 Jan 1795 Fort Plain, Montgomery, New York
Sources
David Flint, author
Military: http://www.fortstanwixdar.com/dar/ancestors.htm#F
Roster of Oriskany heroes: http://www.fortklock.com/namesoriskany.htm
1790 Census for Canajoharie County gathered from http://montgomery.nygenweb.net/canajoharie.html
Memorial: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=96372729
Cornelius Flint
Born 14 Oct 1741 Canajoharie, Montgomery, New York
Christened 1741 Reformed Dutch Church of Stone Arabia, Palatine, Montgomery, New York
Note: His name is spelled Corneles, his father's as Robertt and it lists Susanna Bauman NOT Joanna as his mother in the record
Married 1) Anna Bauman 11 Feb 1768 Palatine, Montgomery, New York
Children: Isaac, Robert, Peter, John, Elizabeth, Alexander, Cornelius
2) Maria Clement abt 1770 Herkimer, New York
Children: Peter
1790 Census states he had the following number of people living in his household:
3 -Free white males over 16 years
4 -Free white males under 16 years
2 -Free white females
0 -All other free persons
0 -Slaves
Military: American Revolution, appears on roster of Oriskany as Private
Died Bef Jan 1817
Sources
Christening: IGI Film 0533497 Batch C510931 dated 1740-1875
David Flint, author
Military: http://www.fortstanwixdar.com/dar/ancestors.htm#F
Roster of Oriskany heroes: http://www.fortklock.com/namesoriskany.htm
1790 Census for Canajoharie County gathered from http://montgomery.nygenweb.net/canajoharie.html
Memorial: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=167110737
*Robert Flint
Born 12 Mar 1742 Canajoharie, Montgomery, New York
Married Deborah Buys
Note: there is an annoying variety of dates for the marriage to Deborah - everything from 1748 (he'd be six years old) to 1774. If we go by his birthdate and figure he married at 16, he'd be married somewhere around 1758 at the earliest
Children: William, Joshua, George, Samuel, James, Robert, Elizabeth, David
1790 Census states he had the following number of people in his household:
1-Free white males over 16 years
2 -Free white males under 16 years
2 -Free white females
0 -All other free persons
0 -Slaves
Military: Lieutenant in American Revolution, appears on roster of Oriskany as Private
Death 10 Nov 1802
Sources
David Flint, author
Military: http://www.fortstanwixdar.com/dar/ancestors.htm#F
Roster of Oriskany heroes: http://www.fortklock.com/namesoriskany.htm
1790 Census for Canajoharie County gathered from http://montgomery.nygenweb.net/canajoharie.html
Memorial: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=141817712

CHILDREN - Robert and Joanna, his second wife

Isaac Flint
Born May 24, 1768
Died 1837
Buried Family Burial Ground Sprout Brook, Montgomery, New York
Source
David Flint, author

Flint, author

8 comments:

ewFebruary 4, 2017 at 6:32 PM
The information about Robert Flint and his family presented here is highly confusing. According to the historical fiction by David Flint, Robert Flint immigrated to America from Flintshire, Wales, met and married Joanna Bauman in 1730 and had four sons viz: Adam (1731), Alexander and Cornelius (1732-1734) and Robert (1735). There was no son John or daughter Elizabeth mentioned. All of this information is counterdicted in several other sources so it is very difficult to verify the truth.
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MichelleFebruary 5, 2017 at 7:59 AM
Hello, "ew"
I'm sorry if the information presented is confusing. I do my best (as a human) to present the information I find and I list their sources. Family History can be very confusing and contradicting, often taking years to untangle. Note that the information about Elizabeth came from Ancestral File (which is now Family Search). That is a free genealogy site and the information comes from many people, who are also human and it has no other sources. Did she exist? Good question. Where did their information come from? Likely a Family Group Sheet, but it was not listed. There is, however, an unusually large gap between Adam and Alexander. As far as John goes, I have not worked on this line since 2010 and do not recall the particulars. My suggestion, at this point, is to contact David through his website. He was very helpful and eager to tell this family's story. I'm sorry I could not have been more help.
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UnknownMarch 4, 2017 at 9:48 PM
Do any of the listed links work? What is "David Flint's" URL? Where does David Flint document his sources? The list goes on and on and on and on and on and on!
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Kasey HulteenJuly 26, 2017 at 7:56 PM
Information about Johanna Hand Josiah Hand and Mary Halsey. Johanna is listed as marrying unknown Flint. Just discovered this link so I don't know how accurate it is. Johanna's father died in 1739 and left a will that mentioned his daughter johanna flint. If this is right, Johannaa married Robert before 1739. But susanna was still alive in 1742. http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/m/i/l/Shirley-E-Milewski/GENE1-0009.html
Here is another link with more information about the hand family. This one lists robert as her husband.
www.geni.com/people/Johanna-Flint/6000000000549978135
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UnknownMay 23, 2018 at 10:22 PM
I've stumbled onto this site and it's fascinating to read about my family's history im a direct descendant of Robert (: (I've done quite a bit of research too so if you need any updates cleared up so others don't find it confusing I can help ^-^) [lol I'm sorry if I'm a bit late but like I said I just found out]
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UnknownMay 23, 2018 at 10:28 PM
I'm sorry if I'm a bit late I just found this page while searching my ancestors I'm a direct descendant of Robert... I just found out (:
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From a Funeral Program

When I come to the end of the road

And the sun has set for me

I want no rites in a gloom-filled room

Why cry for a soul set free?

Miss me a little - but not for too long

And not with your head bowed low

Remember the love that we once shared

Miss me, but let me go.

For this is a journey that we all must take

And each must go alone

It's all part of the Master's plan

A step on the road to home.

When you are lonely and sick at heart

Go to the hills we know

And bury your sorrow among the trees

Miss me, but let me go.

The Line

Every minute someone leaves this world behind.
We are all in “the line” without knowing it.
We never know how many people are before us.
We can not move to the back of the line.
We can not step out of the line.
We can not avoid the line.

So while we wait in line -

Make moments count.
Make priorities.
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Make a nobody feel like a somebody.
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Make someone smile.
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Make sure to tell your people they are loved.
Make sure to have no regrets.
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I'm My Own Grandpa

Many, many years ago when I was 23,
I got married to a widow
who was as pretty as could be.
She had a grown up daughter
who had a hair of red.
My father fell in love with her
and soon the two were wed.
This made my dad my son-in-law
And changed my very life.
My daughter was my mother,
for she was my father's wife.
To complicate the matters worse,
although it brought me joy,
I soon became the father
of a bouncing baby boy.
My little baby then became a brother -in-law to dad
and so became my uncle though it made me very sad.
For if he was my uncle,
then that also made him brother to the widow's grown-up- daughter,
who of course, was my stepmother.
Father's wife then had a son,
who kept them on the run.
And he became my grandson, for he was my daughter's son.
My wife is now my mother's mother
and it makes me blue.
Because, although she is my wife,
she's my grandma too.
If my wife is my grandmother,
then I am her grandchild.
and every time I think of it,
it simply makes me wild.
For now I have become the strangest case you ever saw.
As the husband of my grandmother,
I am my own grandpa!

Quotes from the Prophets

President Gordon B Hinckley: "It is good to look to the past to gain appreciation for the present and perspective for the future. It is good to look upon the virtues of those who have gone before, to gain strength for whatever lies ahead. It is good to reflect upon the work of those who labored so hard and gained so little in this world, but out of whose dreams and early plans so well nurtured, has come a great harvest of which we are the beneficiaries. Their tremendous example can become a compelling motivation for us all, for each of us is a pioneer in his own life."

President Spencer W Kimball: "I hope to see us dissolve the artificial boundary line we so often place between missionary work and temple and genealogical work, because it is the same great redemptive work!"

President Joseph Fielding Smith: " The responsibility on behalf of our kindred dead rests with equal force on all, according to our individual ability and opportunities...the greatest and grandest duty of all is to labor for the dead."

The Passing of the Pot (Chamber Pot)

As far back in childhood
As memory may go
One household vessel greets me
That wasn't made for show
Beneath the bed twas anchored
Where only few could see
But served the entire family
With equal privacy
Some called the critter Peggy
And some the thundermug
And others called it badger
A few called it jug
To bring it in at evening
Was bad enough no doubt
But heaven help the person
Who had to take it out
Our big one was enormous
And would accomodate
A watermelon party
Composed of six or eight
When nights were dark and rainy
It was a useful urn
On icy winter mornings
The cold rim seemed to burn
At times when things were rushing
And business extra good
Each took his turn a waiting
Or did the best he could
Sometimes when in a hurry
To our disgust and shame
We fumbled in the darkness
And slightly missed our aim
The special one for company
Was decorated well
But just the same it rendered
That old familiar smell
Today this modernism
Relieves me a lot
And only in my vision
I see that homely pot.
(author unknown)

Poem about ancestors

Though steep is the path I follow today,
The footprints of time will show me the way.
For many have traveled a smiliar road,
And carried an equal of heavier load.

No troubles I face are new to this earth,
That man has not faced from time of his birth.
The route has been charted and roads have been paved
By legions before me who were stalwart and brave.

Their steps never faltered nor courage grew dim,
For they trusted the Lord and let Him led them.
If my faith and my trust remain steadfast and true,
God will guide and protect me in all that I do.
- Dolores Karides

The Elusive Ancestor

I went searching for an ancestor.
I cannot find him still.
He moved around from place to place
and did not leave a will.
He married where a courthouse burned.
He mended all his fences.
He avoided any man who came to
take the US census

He always kept his luggage packed,
This man who had no fame,
and every 20 years or so,
This rascal changed his name.
No one else inthis world is
searching for this elusive man,
so I play "Gene-solitaire"
To find him, if I can!

I'm told he's buried in a plot,
with tombstone he was blessed;
but the weather took engravings,
and some vandals took the rest.
He died before the county clerks
were appointed to keep records
No family Bible has emerged -
In spite of all my efforts.

To top it off, this elusive ancestor
who has caused me many groans -
left me even one more challenge:
He brothed a lady,
by the name of "Jones"!
(Got this from a publication
put out by the DUP organization
that names the author: Merrell Kenworthy)

Poem: Heaven's Door

If I should go before you,

If life on earth were through;

I'll stop just inside Heaven's door,

and there I'll wait for you.

You've but to look 'cross star filled skies,

Past the moon and then beyond;

To know my leaving could never break,

This heart's undying bond.

And if you should go before me,

If your journey on earth were through;

You know I will be close behind,

I'll never be far from you.

Across the span of time and space,

This love will reach this far;

For you'll always carry a bit of my heart,

No matter where you are.

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Which Shall It Be? by Adelaide Proctor

Which shall it be?

"Which shall it be? Which shall it be?
I looked at John and John looked at me,
And when I found that I must speak,
My voice seemed strangely low and weak:
˜Tell me again what Robert said,"
And then I, listening, bent my head.
This is his letter:˜I will give
A house and land while you shall live,
If, in return, from out your seven,
One child to me for aye is given."

I looked at John's old garments worn;
I thought of all that he had borne
Of poverty, and work, and care,
Which I, though willing, could not share;
I thought of seven young mouths to feed,
Of seven little children's need,
And then of this.

˜Come, John,said I,
We'll choose among them as they lie
Asleep. So, walking hand in hand,
Dear John and I surveyed our band:
First to the cradle lightly stepped,
Where Lilian, the baby, slept.
Softly the father stooped to lay
His rough hand down in a loving way,
When dream or whisper made her stir,
And huskily he said: ˜Not her!"

We stooped beside the trundle bed,
And one long ray of twilight shed
Athwart the boyish faces there,
In sleep so beautiful and fair;
I saw on James rough, red cheek
A tear undried. E'er John could speak,
He's but a baby, too," said I,
And kissed him as we hurried by.

Pale, patient, Robbie's angel face
Still in his sleep bore suffering's trace.
˜No, for a thousand crowns, not him!"
He whispered, while our eyes were dim.
Poor Dick! bad Dick! our wayward son”
Turbulent, restless, idle one”
Could he be spared?
Nay, He who gave
Bade us befriend him to the grave;
Only a mother's heart could be
Patient enough for such as he;
˜And so," said John, ˜I would not dare
To take him from her bedside prayer."

Then stole we softly up above,
And knelt by Mary, child of love;
˜Perhaps for her ˜twould better be,"
I said to John. Quite silently
He lifted up a curl that lay
Across her cheek in a wilful way,
And shook his head: ˜Nay, love, not thee,
The while my heart beat audibly.

Only one more, our eldest lad,
Trusty and truthful, good and glad,
So like his father. ˜No, John, no!
I cannot, will not, let him go."

And so we wrote, in courteous way,
We could not give one child away;
And afterward toil lighter seemed,
Thinking of that of which we dreamed,
Happy in truth that not one face
Was missed from its accustomed place;
Thankful to work for all the seven,
Trusting the rest to One in heaven."